Topic: Re: Veron 041 RBR (Read 14557 times)

Dreadstar · « **on:** December 09, 2009, 03:34:48 pm »

Can anyone please tell me which model this might be?

Vintage · « **Reply #1 on:** December 09, 2009, 03:47:01 pm »

Hi - If it's approx. 28" long then it'll be a Veron 041 "Round Britain Racer"

I'll put an image up later.

Hope this helps

Mark.

Vintage · « **Reply #2 on:** December 09, 2009, 04:09:06 pm »

Here you go.

Dreadstar · « **Reply #3 on:** December 09, 2009, 04:32:56 pm »

Thanks for that Mark,trying to find any info on old Veron models is extremely difficult to say the least. Try as I might,I just couldn't find anything on the boat side,there's quite a bit as regards the planes though.

David.

Vintage · « **Reply #4 on:** December 09, 2009, 05:21:16 pm »

Thanks David

You're right - Veron kits & models are much harder to find than the likes of Keil Kraft.

If you're intending to restore it & need any info. let me know

Mark.

Dreadstar · « **Reply #5 on:** December 09, 2009, 05:37:45 pm »

The closest actual boat that I can find to the model is the American Flying Fish powerboat of 1966,which sank during the Cowes race off Portland Bill that year. She looks as if she had either a silver or white hull,with a yellow superstructure.

I won't be puting a nitro-engine in it that's for sure,leccy all the way,but I'm not too sure as to the size of motor I'll need for it. She was capable of 60 kts,(full size),so I'm not sure how fast I'll need to try and get her,model wise.

Dreadstar · « **Reply #6 on:** December 17, 2009, 03:38:29 pm »

Finally got her through the post today. Most of the preparation work has aready been done to her,though she's in need of a right good clean.You were spot on length wise Mark,including the trim tabs,she's just over 28" long. It was originally nitro powered by the looks of things,with twin fuel tanks,as there are two filler pipes in her,one either side of the cockpit,and she has the water pick-up installed too,for cooling the motor. I'm going to be puting an electric motor in her,(water cooled of course),but I require some advice as to which powerplant I should fit in her. She has a 2-blade 45mm nylon racing prop already fitted to the shaft.

If you have the plans to hand Mark,I'd like to see a plan view of her,if at all possible.
Thanks,David.

Vintage · « **Reply #7 on:** December 17, 2009, 07:35:42 pm »

Quote from: Dreadstar on December 17, 2009, 03:38:29 pm

If you have the plans to hand Mark,I'd like to see a plan view of her,if at all possible.
Thanks,David.

Hi David - I've photographed the plan view of the model, compressed it loads & attached it as a jpg. so it can be posted on here. If you save it to your desktop you'll be able to view it much larger. Unfortunately, although the model is untouched, the plan is incredibly delicate & I'm not sure it'd survive being copied. I do have an original Veron microfiche slide of the plan but I'm not sure who'd be able to print from it??

Sorry I can't help with details of up to date electric motors to power it, I'd stick a period Taycol motor in it if it were mine, but I'm sure someone on here can advise.

If you're looking to put decals on, as per the the illustration on the box, then I can probably scan the original transfers & cut them in vinyl for you

It'd be good to see photos when you've finished it....

Mark.

Dreadstar · « **Reply #8 on:** December 17, 2009, 11:44:40 pm »

Thanks for that Mark,it came out nice and clear. I'm going to modify the rear deck a little,so that I can access the rudder compartment, and hold down the rear of the cockpit deck at the same time.On the plans,and looking at the model itself,the rear deck looks as if it was originally nailed or screwed down,but what I intend to do,is to build a frame around the opening,and making a raised cover to fit instead. This will allow me to make a locating tongue,to hold the rear of the cockpit deck in place. It may not be exactly correct,but it shouldn't look too out of place, in that it may well look like a raised engine cover.

Is she classed as a 1/24th scale boat?

David.

Vintage · « **Reply #9 on:** December 18, 2009, 01:09:58 pm »

Quote from: Dreadstar on December 17, 2009, 11:44:40 pm

Is she classed as a 1/24th scale boat?

I'm guessing but I'd imagine the model to be nearer 1/12 scale, the model at 28" would equate to 28' for the actual boat. If you look at the following clip it shows similar boats & talks about the largest being 40' but many appear much smaller if you consider the relative size of the crew.

http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=44865

The Veron kit was marketed as a near scale "design based upon typical Offshore Racers competing in the Isle of White to Torbay & Round Britain races".

Mark.

Dreadstar · « **Reply #10 on:** December 18, 2009, 03:11:37 pm »

Thanks Mark.
I'm going to install a Speed 660 water cooled motor in it,which will run on my existing 7.2V GP 4300 mAh packs. Brushless may be the way to go in a speedboat,but my finances won't stretch to one just now. Just as long as the boat planes,and does at least 5kts,then I'll be happy.That should be just about scale speed,if she runs faster,then great,I've won a chocolate watch.

I've sealed the hull with 2 coats of yacht varnish,which should give me a reasonable base for painting the hull.I'm just waiting for the lower hull to dry,before I seal the deck level.

Dreadstar · « **Reply #11 on:** December 19, 2009, 03:49:14 pm »

The hull,after 2 coats of yacht varnish.

The before and after shots of the trim tabs. If you look carefully at the hull photo's,you can just make them out.

Dreadstar · « **Reply #12 on:** December 21, 2009, 06:30:14 pm »

I don't know whether or not to floor the cockpit,or leave it open as it is just now. I know that it was originally left open because of the nitro engine that was originally in her,to allow for airflow over the engine,and for starting purposes. If I leave it open,then the airflow will help keep both the motor and ESC cool,the only real downside to this is,that she's not watertight. If however I plate the floor,then there isn't the airflow over the components.

Roger in France · « **Reply #13 on:** December 21, 2009, 06:40:55 pm »

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Martin (Admin) · « **Reply #14 on:** December 21, 2009, 07:04:41 pm »

Topic name changed.

Wasyl · « **Reply #15 on:** December 21, 2009, 07:08:24 pm »

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What a Christmas pressie

Wullie

Dreadstar · « **Reply #16 on:** December 21, 2009, 07:13:26 pm »

Thanks Roger and Martin,it's much appreciated. Don't worry,your jobs are safe as far as I'm concerned.

Martin (Admin) · « **Reply #17 on:** December 21, 2009, 11:38:51 pm »

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Dreadstar · « **Reply #18 on:** December 22, 2009, 12:22:01 am »

Only roughly done at the moment,but you'll get the idea of the colour scheme that I'm going with.

Dreadstar · « **Reply #19 on:** December 24, 2009, 01:39:05 pm »

She's still not up to your painting standards,but I think I'm getting there.I've still to finish off the rear deck,and fit some fairleads and cleats,but other than that,she's more or less ready to be tested.

Dreadstar · « **Reply #20 on:** December 26, 2009, 03:03:44 pm »

I just gave her a quick test run in the good old test tank,aka the bath. Holy Hannah,trying to keep it steady as it tries to empty the bath wasn't easy.

The water cooling set-up works fine too,as the prop supplies more than enough flow to the water pick-up to pump it round the cooling tube. I don't think that she'll break any records,but she should be more than fast enough for me at the moment.

Dreadstar · « **Reply #21 on:** December 27, 2009, 02:57:26 pm »

I took her up to Lomond Shores for a test run earlier on.Ok,so it's not as fast as many of you would like,but she seems to move not too badly. I'm glad that I took the Neptune with me as well,as the Veron broke down,and needed to be rescued. The hull was half full of water,but I can't for the like of me work out where it came from. The hull seems to be intact,with no sprung joints or anything like that. There's no water in the stern tube either,so the only thing I can think of,is that there's a leak in one of the cooling tubes.

http://s92.photobucket.com/albums/l4/xuihpilli/?action=view&current=DSCN1347.flv

FullLeatherJacket · « **Reply #22 on:** December 27, 2009, 05:22:26 pm »

45mm? Nah - prop's too big and pitchy. 35mm should be the top limit for any 540-sized motor (except for slow-speed, high-torque stuff).
I'd suggest using silicone tube for your cooling - that's if you still need any after changing the prop. Model aircraft fuel tube is good; also there's some excellent blue type sold for air-pumps in fish-ponds.
But change the prop.
FLJ

Dreadstar · « **Reply #23 on:** December 27, 2009, 05:53:39 pm »

At the moment ,I can change it for a 40mm 2-blade nylon one,( non racing pitch).

HS93 (RIP) · « **Reply #24 on:** December 27, 2009, 06:12:14 pm »

Quote from: FullLeatherJacket on December 27, 2009, 05:22:26 pm

45mm? Nah - prop's too big and pitchy. 35mm should be the top limit for any 540-sized motor (except for slow-speed, high-torque stuff).
I'd suggest using silicone tube for your cooling - that's if you still need any after changing the prop. Model aircraft fuel tube is good; also there's some excellent blue type sold for air-pumps in fish-ponds.
But change the prop.
FLJ

why would you remove the aluminium cooling coil to fit one of silicone that does not transfer heat as well ?

Peter

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