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scotthorwell

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newbie needing advice
« on: January 14, 2010, 11:27:42 am »

First id like to hi to everyone and what a great site this is. Has anyone built and converted the Italeri 1/35 Schnellboot Typ S-100 to rc? as i have one on the way to me and should be here any day. what motors would be best to use etc.... as i have heard this is a heavy kit when built so will need to keep the weight down. I also have the deans kit of the HMS Manxman underway and have encountered many a problem with that, the instructions are shall i say very poor indeed and does not explain where all the parts go, even the dvd  that you buy does not help much so i was just wandering if anyone has built that as well so any info would be very welcome, as soon as i figure out how you post pics up ill throw some on of my manxman. Also id just like to say that im new to building  so my kits arent up to much but im learning as i progress.
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Re: newbie needing advice
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2010, 12:14:24 pm »

try SHG as they supplied Dave Abbott with the running gear for the review he did in model boats last year!
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Re: newbie needing advice
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2010, 12:17:14 pm »

Here are some pics of the manxman.
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« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2010, 12:18:04 pm »

One of our customers has built the Manxman and fitted it out with all manner of gizmos. He is a Forum member but hasn't been active for a while (although he was his usual hail and hearty self when we saw him at the Warwick show). If you look up Ivorthediver in the list of Mayhem members there is an E-Mail address for him. He's a nice bloke and he should be able to help.
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Re: newbie needing advice
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2010, 02:12:35 pm »

|I got that ironing board cover!!
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Re: newbie needing advice
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2010, 02:14:56 pm »

Hi there and welcome
If thats 'not up to much building'
I think you will go far!
As you have already found there is always
someone who has experienced the same
problems and found a solution and are
willing to help


Yours Aye

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scotthorwell

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Re: newbie needing advice
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2010, 03:09:07 pm »

thanks Klunk i have emailed shg and hope to get a reply shortly
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« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2010, 03:19:29 pm »

thanks netleyned it looks better in the pics, believe it of not that is my first real build, i have other boats which are just plastic kits which i have converted to rc  like the 1/200 HIJM Yamato, 1/72 Herman Marwede and the soon to arrive Italeri 1/35 Schnellboot Typ S-100.
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« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2010, 03:26:23 pm »

lol just me again and yes another question. Because the manxman is long and narrow its going to be really unstable is there a way i can stadilise it??? oops sorry about my spelling  :embarrassed:















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Re: newbie needing advice
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2010, 08:18:44 pm »

Hi scot, I'm no expert but most of the guys water test and add thin sheet lead shaped/profiled and spread in the hull bottom. This trims the boat up to the waterline and improves stability, particularly when the boat is turning. Add/place weight carefully and experiment with placement of this ballast during trial runs.................Hopefully others with more experience will add more advice.
I owned a huge model of a castle class corvette (WWW2 flower class repacement design) and it was a brute to sail until I added the correct ballast, however, I used redundant 6v batteries and placed them in the correct spots within the hull, identified by trial and error. I could not have launched/recovered this giant with the ballast permanently 'in situ' - I pay my osteopath enough money as it is.  %) Fine trimming can be achieved by using stick-on tyre weights from a friendly fitting outlet. Your model is large and an easy solution may be found with a combination of techniques. the secret of success is to keep weight as low as possible.
This is a great hobby, enjoy - That Manxman looks very smart, well done.  ok2
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« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2010, 04:17:43 am »

thanks Klunk i have emailed shg and hope to get a reply shortly

Hi Scotthorwell,

Interested if you ever got a reply from SHG. >:-o
Sent them a couple of emails regarding costs etc for the conversion kit, no reply. <*<
Also sent copy of my emails to the Editor "Model Boats", zilch, narda. >>:-(
Very disappointing as it seems like SHG don't want to do mail order to Australia. >>:-( <*< <:( <:( <:(

Can't be that we have bad BO as we are toooooooo faaaaaaaaaaaaaar away to cause a problem.

Never mind the Sun is still shining.
Cheers from OZ
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« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2010, 04:25:52 am »

thanks netleyned it looks better in the pics, believe it of not that is my first real build, i have other boats which are just plastic kits which i have converted to rc  like the 1/200 HIJM Yamato, 1/72 Herman Marwede and the soon to arrive Italeri 1/35 Schnellboot Typ S-100.

Hi Scottorwell,

Mate you must be psychic.

Not only have you the Italeri Schnellboot but see you have converted the 1/200 Yamato.

As a newbie newbie who hasn't completed either of them yet, is there anything to watch out for with the Yamato.

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« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2010, 06:22:30 pm »

Hi RaaArtyGunner,
                         there are a number of things to watch out for on the yamato, the first and worst problem is if you have one of the last kits to come off the productoin line you will find as i did with mine is that the hull sides were warped inwards so the fitting of the deck was very hard, and the second problem is the parts have very bad flack on them and are hard to clean off without breaking the parts. If you are going to fit running gear in it then DO NOT USE THE PROPS AND SHAFTS that come with the kit as they are shite. i got the prop shop to make some up for me and had shafts made too, cost me a fortune but it was worth it, also before starting to build i would recomend buying the brass etching kit, i didnt and regretted it. ballast, well basically you need a hell of a lot to bring it down to the waterline i used 4 18volt drill batteries wich just about got it down enough.
    Now the S-100 was a dream to build all the parts are clean and went together too well and basically it only took me about 2 weeks to build and get in the water, now the running gear i used was just 2 props and shafts with 3 rudders, motors i used were 400s and a 6v 4.5ah lead acid battery giving me about 40 mins of run time and cuts thru the water amazingly well for a plastic kit. shg recomends that you use 3 props and shafts but this is not true and runs fine on just 2 which i think is the true scale speed. ill try and send you an email with the quotation i got from them in a bit hope this all helps
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« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2010, 07:58:58 pm »

cant seem to send email, keeps coming back saying it has failed do you have another address??
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Re: newbie needing advice
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2010, 08:21:27 pm »

For ballasting the Manxman.
Use MiNim 7'2 volt battery or batteries.
She will take 2.
Ballast with sheet lead laid along her keel down to her marks (the top of the boot topping) and she should be fine.

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« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2010, 01:43:57 am »

Hi RaaArtyGunner,
                         there are a number of things to watch out for on the yamato, the first and worst problem is if you have one of the last kits to come off the productoin line you will find as i did with mine is that the hull sides were warped inwards so the fitting of the deck was very hard, and the second problem is the parts have very bad flack on them and are hard to clean off without breaking the parts. If you are going to fit running gear in it then DO NOT USE THE PROPS AND SHAFTS that come with the kit as they are shite. i got the prop shop to make some up for me and had shafts made too, cost me a fortune but it was worth it, also before starting to build i would recomend buying the brass etching kit, i didnt and regretted it. ballast, well basically you need a hell of a lot to bring it down to the waterline i used 4 18volt drill batteries wich just about got it down enough.
    Now the S-100 was a dream to build all the parts are clean and went together too well and basically it only took me about 2 weeks to build and get in the water, now the running gear i used was just 2 props and shafts with 3 rudders, motors i used were 400s and a 6v 4.5ah lead acid battery giving me about 40 mins of run time and cuts thru the water amazingly well for a plastic kit. shg recomends that you use 3 props and shafts but this is not true and runs fine on just 2 which i think is the true scale speed. ill try and send you an email with the quotation i got from them in a bit hope this all helps
Hi Scott,
Thanks for the feedback which is much appreciated.
My Yamato is many years old. Just been waiting to get the time to build it, but if i don't start soon it will never happen.
Have viewed the S100 and as you say looks good so am tempted to build it first as it may be easier.
Once again thank you for the feedback.
Regards
Jack
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« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2010, 01:52:03 am »

cant seem to send email, keeps coming back saying it has failed do you have another address??
email is
We strongly advise that you do not put Email addresses in the open Forum as these are harvested by SpyBots and used for nefarious purposes. Use Personal Messaging. Roger in France, Moderator.
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Thanks for the assist.
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« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2010, 10:45:27 am »

email is
We strongly advise that you do not put Email addresses in the open Forum as these are harvested by SpyBots and used for nefarious purposes. Use Personal Messaging. Roger in France, Moderator.
Of particular note is that the bars between are not hyphens but are underscores. Made by using hyphen and shift keys together.
However if the post allows it to appear as an email address ie underlined in blue then you may be able to click on it which may open your email program well at least in outlook express.
Thanks for the assist.

Oops, thank you Roger for being on the ball. Used Red in my reply as I am redfaced.
Thanks again for the speedy intercept much appreciated and good to see.
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