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[Dekan]

Hi, I'm thinking about building a Thunder Tiger Victoria, as a first boat.

 I have looked at the Victoria build articles, I'm throughly confused over the rigging.

 Can anybody explain about the long double sided sail arm... specially about the use of a metal ruler as an arm 
Any helpfull books about yachts or articles explaining rigging.

[tigertiger]

You can follow the rigging in the Victoria instruction books and no problems.
You can download the manual here and look at the instructions as standard http://www.tiger.com.tw/manual/1__4__2.html
This has the sail arm fitted as supplied. This is a one sided sail arm. I used this set up, as it was my first boat.

The Victoria Resource center has full build instructions that include tips for improving performance. There is a step by step build guide.
http://www.victoriarc.org/building.htm

One of the mods they suggest is to use a double sided sail arm set up, this reduces friction and strain on the servo as it balances the pull forces.
The model does not come with a double sided sail arm provided, and so you will need to make one. You can make the arm from any flat long object you have lying around and cut it down to size. Plastic or metal are better as they are smoothe and the line (sheet) needs to run through it under tension. Any stiff flat thing lying around can be modified, including a ruler.

Have a look at the instructions, don't worry if you can't get your head around the Victoria Resource Centre stuff. I built my Victoria according to the manufactureres instructions and she sails fine. The only thing I would recomend is not to fit the deck furniture (wheels and fake pulleys in black plastic) they can cause tangles, I have now removed mine.
Another tip, all the white plastic deck fittings when glued will come off the first time. This is due to the surface of the plastic not being primed. Glue them back and they will be much firmer, some of mine needed a third glue but have not come off again in more than 4 years.

[Islander1951]

Have a good look here too:

http://www.okanaganmodelsailboat.org/Index1.html

Plenty of good tips, and clear instructions.

                     Edward.

[Dekan]

Thanks for the info... but as I know so little about the rigging of sails on yachts model or full size, its going to be a struggle to get my head a round the tutorials..As I said earlier any good books to get me started?
Setting up the control surfaces on an RC plane seems quite straight forward in comparison  

[tigertiger]

My suggestion, and it worked for me.

I just followed the instructions in the Victoria manual. When you have the things in front of you it is much clearer. And I did things one step at a time.

I did not understand 'why?' is was doing things the way the way I was, but I could see the 'how?' from the instruction book.

After completing the model, and sailing her, I could understand things much better. My second model was also a learning experience.

Just take your time, and if you can't see something, sleep on it. The rigging on the Victoria is fairly simple, not as scary as it first appears.

[malcolmfrary]

For a simple life, do as Tiger says, build according to the instructions. 
The single arm is perfectly adequate, but is best when used with a higher torque servo of the same size, as is the double arrangement.  This item need not be expensive.  It allows easier sailing in stronger winds - in more than about force 2 a standard servo just gets pulled out, the more powerful version exerts more authority.  Make sure the battery is in REALLY GOOD condition, and the servo box is REALLY WELL fixed down (dont ask).
Don't worry about why it is done a particular way, follow the book and get the "how" part right.  When you see it working, the "why" will sort itself out and if you feel the need for mods, you can then do them and know if they are actually an improvement.

[tigertiger]

I will second what Malcolm said about the 'servo box' (in the instructions it is called the radio tray).

Mine came adrift. When I fixed it the second time I scored the inside of the hull lightly with a knife to gove the glue something to bite into. I then used copious amounts of araldite.