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[Liverbudgie2]

Not a moggie lover by the look of it.......http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/7960197/Cat-owners-hunt-for-woman-who-put-pet-in-wheelie-bin.html

[Martin13]

We got that bit of newsreel down here in Oz.....I'm no cat lover but, what was she thinking

Martin du

[poddy]

Unbelievable. I'm speechless. You could forgive that sort of behaviour from children, but from an adult? My guess is that her life is going to get pretty uncomfortable from now on if she is a local.

[pugwash]

Looks can be deceptive.  She just seems to be a middle-aged, middle-class pillar of society, she either
has a screw loose or a vindictive streak.  The pictures are very clear so she should get identified and
hopefully prosecuted

Geoff

[Prophet]

Athough i don't Agree with her act... i might get stung for this reply, but if shes local, its not uncommon for people to constantly see others cant digging up your flower beds and taking a dump on your lawn, heavens knows how many times i have had it done to me in the past or i hear my father daily moaning about it even with the amount of humane devices he has setup to deter this, could be a simple act of ' I've had enough with this cat pooping on my lawn first chance i get, when i see this cat its gonna get it' and bingo opportunity arises and it ends in the bin.

Although the act wasn't nice it wasn't exactly cruel to an extent that i have seen other animals mistreated.  How many programs have you seen that show cats and dogs locked up in confinement, kicked, beaten, not fed, flee infested?.

But i think most will agree Cats in general are a nuisance we all put up with. i have to admit that i really dislike cats, ever since one got through our kitchen window and killed my wife heard of guinea pigs ( i tell you she was upset about them being killed by a cat for a good while, took me hours to clean up the body parts of 4 pigs and had to redecorate the dining room to remove the last of the blood stains)  animals are like your kids and loosing them to another animals act due is not pleasant.
Athough this is animal behaviour, you tend to find that dogs are far more loyal and obedient than a cat ever will be, this is no excuse to treat any animal in such a way but it does give some reason to why animals can be treated badly at times.

Currently at the moment we have 2 baby guinea pigs and a Jack Rustle who's 6 months old as most will know jack rustles are rat dogs and will happily kill any rodents but yet he has never touched our pigs due to the fact he is trained to ignore them. but in regards to cats most train them to be litter trained or just let out and the owners should take responsibility for cat poo same as we have to take responsibility to pick up your dog's mess or be fined. Should cat owners be fined up to £2000 for there mess same as a dog owner? I firmly believe they should. why should others have to do the work of there owners?

I tell of a story i had about 5 years ago when a next doors neighbours dog used to jump over our fence and take a dump in our lawn regally i could never manage to get to the dog to throw it back over the fence after many many arguments with the neighbour about it & phoning th police on several occasions ( there rubbish little chats' waste of my time to be honest) in the end i solved the issue over a period of a week, every time the dog jumped over and took a dump i picked it up and posted it through her letter box after a week of this i never saw the dog come over again!

 Back to the point:-

Admittedly this is speculation of whats gone on, the papers don't tell the past and its all just one video showing an act with out reason but until we know the reason for her behaviour we can only speculate on what a bad person she is, But if it was a pure act of cruelty in which case should be followed though with a punishment fitting the act.

feel free to post your oppinion on my own I'm happy to accept grief about it but this is my oppinion that I'm voicing but please don't think I'm standing up for her behaviour or condoning it as i have never treated an animal in such a way just be open minded about whats triggered her actions if any.

[sheerline]

This was a wicked despicable act by an apparently calculating woman.
 Whatever opinions we all have on cats (I'm not a great lover of them) no creature should be treated in this way. No animal can help being what it is in the same way we can't help being born humans but we have intelligence and the power of reason and we are also gifted with empathy for others. She used intelligence sufficient to know she was doing something very wrong as can be witnessed by her furtive glances around the street, followed by her swift exit. She displayed no empathy with the creatures plight and this appears a calculated act.
My base human reaction would be to have her flogged publicly as I hate wicked people. Perhaps a better punishment would be to trap her in a wheelie bin for sixteen hours so she knows how the cat felt but I guess she would be better placed than the cat as she would understand her position and know she was going to be let out.
I would rather live next door to a cat than that woman.
Some people really are cr^p!

[dreadnought72]

Although the act wasn't nice it wasn't exactly cruel...

Not exactly cruel?

Dumped in a bin with no way to get out? Dumped without caring whether the owner (of the bin) might check it before taking it out to be emptied? Potentially being crushed to death in a dumptruck?

The woman's a monster and deserves to be villified. Small animals and pets have a tough enough time without her kind of evil.

I suspect she'll be traced within hours, if she hasn't been already - and I suspect she'll need (but does not deserve) police protection.

Andy

[Prophet]

Although the act wasn't nice it wasn't exactly cruel to an extent that i have seen other animals mistreated.

not that i like to argue but you have quoted only part of the sentence i wrote taking my opinion out of context. and i agreed it was cruel , but it wasn't as cruel as other acts you see on a daily basis in regards to animal welfare

[Liverbudgie2]

update: http://news.sky.com/...lice_Protection

[pugwash]

I think if you really are a Prophet you might have forseen you would get a bit of stick
on this one.

Geoff

[Prophet]

yes yes get some stick but not have my words redesigned to fit another oppinion or to have it taken out of context to a comparison thats all i have to say.

[bosun]

 With 276 posts in 4 months, and  seemingly having an opinion on everything, I suppose it was only a matter of time before you put your foot in it.
Bosun

[Number 6]

Poor cat! I'm a pet owner with two dogs and a cat. This person should be named and shamed, hopefully she'll be prosecuted and locked up for at least 15 hours a day like the poor cat. What is wrong with these people!! Dave. 

[Martin (Admin)]

Is this a case of Kitty Litter? 

[riggers24]

Put her in a suitablily sized bin, cover her with her own mess and leave her there for 16 hours stewing

[Prophet]

in all fairness to my original post my oppinion is actually widely shared by others,if your a cat lover then any comments i have made in regards to this post will seam to be quite offencive and clearly for some i have struck a nerve to post quite sly comments about me personally .. you know who you are...

but i will post a few quotes from others that share my oppinion over this. all quotes taken from the sky news channels active forum.

''These comments are over the top. How many of these people would make these threats against those establishments that use battery chickens. That's real cruelty but that's OK because it directly affects their pockets.
The woman could have done a lot worse and the fact that the Police wont do anything shows what they think of the 'crime'.
The RSPCA are a joke. They go after the easy targets and in many instances don't have a clue what they a talking about. So I wouldn't be surprised if they move heaven and earth to prosecute because that will help them make more money from donations''

''I would normally agree but trying living next to a cat owner. Infact try living nextdoor to a cat owner with 10 cats like i have to do and you soon see why people turn to desperate measures like this. There is no law as about cats fowling or causing damage so basically the owners of cats get away with it but i can assure you it is no fun having to clean up after pets belonging to obnoxious people. Id advise anyone with a cat problem to contact the environmental health. maybe they wont do anything but if enough people call to complain they may one day wake up an smell the cat poo ''

''Cat owners - feel free to keep reporting comments from non-cat-fanatics en-masse, so they get deleted even though there's nothing abusive in them, and you can continue to enjoy fingers-in-your-ears, la-la-la-I-can't-hear-you, responsibility-free, cat ownership.
For the record, I have nothing against cats.
I have nothing against the cat owners, who - like owners of dogs and other pets - take steps to ensure enjoyment of said pet is contained within their own premises.
For the others who let their cats wander freely and defecate in my garden, an area that we keep safe for our two little children to play in, don't be surprised when seemingly ordinary people resort to tactics similar to those shown in the video.''

this is a catch 22 argument but I'm not the one who believes the same thing my oppinion is more wide spread then other might think as one guy said from the quote ''fingers-in-your-ears, la-la-la-I-can't-hear-you, responsibility-free, cat ownership.''  all i can say is don't be biast to the problems with cats and don't be surprised when others do as this woman has done!

[essex2visuvesi]

If you have cat issues in your garden get one of the large owls as a pet..... Cats hate the feeling of being watched by a large owl.

My dad has been a bird keeper for many years and has always had cat issues, since he aquired an American Great Grey owl the cats have since vacated the garden choosing to run along the back fence to the next garden lol.

I agree with Prophet to a point, but there are much more humane and enjoyable ways to deal with errant cats, my personal favourite being the super soaker.  A few well placed shots and they wont come back.

With his comments on cat poo and children, many people seem to forget the diseases carried in cat poo.

I dont have an issue with cats here.... we have a far more smelly problem.... Bears!

And sadly the supersoaker just makes them cross 

[dodgy geezer]

Athough this is animal behaviour, you tend to find that dogs are far more loyal and obedient than a cat ever will be...... in regards to cats most train them to be litter trained or just let out and the owners should take responsibility for cat poo same as we have to take responsibility to pick up your dog's mess or be fined. Should cat owners be fined up to £2000 for there mess same as a dog owner?

Unfortunately, dogs are pack animals and can be trained by applying social pressures, while cats are solitary predators, and cannot be trained. Loyalty and obedience are a completely alien concepts to them. That's why cats are treated differently in law.


To illustrate the difference in thought patterns:

The dog thinks: "I am looked after, fed, and kept warm by this strange being on two legs who attends to my every need. He must be a God!"
The cat thinks: "I am looked after, fed, and kept warm by this strange being on two legs who attends to my every need. I must be a God!"

[Prophet]

i agree totally there are much better ways to deal with a problem but so far we have only a video showing her act and the owners responce. where's the woman's ? what were her reasons? Has she for years been complaining about this cat being a problem?

 No one knows and because of this instant mind set 'shes in the wrong bla bla bla', if my dog came and did his stuff on your lawn every day for 4 years you would be pretty quick to have me trumped up on charges, and yet this woman probably had the same from this cat and the day she saw it no one around she delt with it because no one else would not the owners NO ONE this is becoming typical in this country recently, the normal person feels let down by local councils/ government's/ society's/ and many other people and the only way to deal with a problem is to take it into your own hands because if you don't it only continues and gets worse and yet in doing so instead of being the Victim they become the Criminal!

Dodgy your right i agree with what you have said but yet even if animals behave in certain ways why does that make cat owners NOT responsible for there pets action? and thats the issue once the cats outside owners have 0 responsibility for there pet and tend to not care where or what its doing. if my dog barks all night I'm sure to get a few complaints, i have to take responsibility for it , and i fail to see why cat owners can't do the same instead of just whining when something goes wrong with there precious moggie. if i ran over someones cat with a car I'm sure i would get a ear full from the cat owners .. but yet it proably wasn't my fault the stupid thing ran out in front of my car?

as i said its catch 22

[John W E]

 

[bilzin]

And we have a far smellier problem down here....CHAVS !!

[dodgy geezer]

Dodgy your right i agree with what you have said but yet even if animals behave in certain ways why does that make cat owners NOT responsible for there pets action?

Because they have no control over what their cat does. Dog owners are deemed to have some control, while cat owners are not.

if i ran over someones cat with a car I'm sure i would get a ear full from the cat owners .. but yet it proably wasn't my fault the stupid thing ran out in front of my car?

If you run over a cat it is legal to just drive on. The owner has no control over the cat - the cat is responsible for its own actions - and if the cat runs out at the wrong time that's just too bad for it. There is no requirement to report it as an accident. If you run over a dog, however, you have to stop and report it, and probably get an earful...

[The long Build]

I certainly do not agree with what the women did but this is nothing compared to what has happened in the cripps River Somerset, and she is now getting Police Protection.  

Our Local Mafia Tom seems to know if your going for the water bucket or just going into the Garden !!  Mind you he met his match the other day with 2 rather narked Blackbirds , he was hiding under the car until they flew off..

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/The-Bodies-Of-100-Animals-Are-Found-Dumped-In-A-Somerset-River-Police-Are-Investigating/Article/201008415703200?f=rss

[bilzin]

When I lived in the USA, we had a lovely ol' Tom named Hank who every day, without fail, went onto my squash patch...dug a hole..and then had a dump in it. He always filled in the hole after his ablutions too !

All cats do that I hear you all say...but our Hank used a spade !!

[dodgy geezer]

...
All cats do that I hear you all say...but our Hank used a spade !!

Interestingly, not only can cats learn to use a human toilet, but they can also learn to flush it! http://www.mingusmingusmingus.com/Mingus/cat_training.html refers.

However, they will only do it if THEY want to, not if YOU want them to...