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Re: FCB2, Replacement for the Mersey Class
« Reply #75 on: July 15, 2011, 01:12:16 am »

 :} ... sorry guys.....but in OZ we usually moor our rescue vessels in water.......was this intended? .....is the vessel designed for this type of beaching? ....

If this continues I can see an additional job for an NDT inspector & a specialist TIG welder.........Derek  %%

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBcTXJ7UGVg&feature=youtu.be
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Re: FCB2, Replacement for the Mersey Class
« Reply #76 on: July 15, 2011, 08:50:00 am »

hi ,

yes. to your question..specifically designed for fast beach approach to offload casualties in the fastest possible time.......this is the reason why it has taken so long to design AND to get a hull that will withstand such punishment...the first incarnation failed on both this aspect and the ride it gave to the crew in rough weather..the crews evaluating it simply didn't feel safe.

She is twin water jet drive and as been said she will be called the "Shannon class"...first ever lifeboat to be called after an Irish River, and long overdew in my mind...all RNLI boats are names after rivers in the British Isles.

Her hull has now been redesigned and strengthend and is designed as a "beach launch" boat from tracter and trailer
Hope this helps.

neil.
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Re: FCB2, Replacement for the Mersey Class
« Reply #77 on: July 15, 2011, 11:07:16 am »

hi ,

yes. to your question..specifically designed for fast beach approach to offload casualties in the fastest possible time.......this is the reason why it has taken so long to design AND to get a hull that will withstand such punishment...the first incarnation failed on both this aspect and the ride it gave to the crew in rough weather..the crews evaluating it simply didn't feel safe.

She is twin water jet drive and as been said she will be called the "Shannon class"...first ever lifeboat to be called after an Irish River, and long overdew in my mind...all RNLI boats are names after rivers in the British Isles.

Her hull has now been redesigned and strengthend and is designed as a "beach launch" boat from tracter and trailer
Hope this helps.

neil.

The Baot in the video is the First experimental boat FeeSeaBeeTwo. It is at Llandudno with the new Supercat tractor for recovery Trials this week. The First of the new redesigned Shannon class boats is not due until the begining of September if I recall. The new Tractor with the first Experimental boat on it was at the Open days at Poole last weekend before going to Llandudno for the trials.
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Re: FCB2, Replacement for the Mersey Class
« Reply #78 on: July 15, 2011, 12:44:07 pm »

i stand corrected, john.............thought it looked a little like the original design, but hey ho......very impressive just the same.....

have you plans on building a plug for the new "Shannon"....if so, can i order one now please.

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Re: FCB2, Replacement for the Mersey Class
« Reply #79 on: July 15, 2011, 01:33:11 pm »

This video shows the whole launching and recovery process    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aiqyxa7NYpE

some photos on Picasa too    https://picasaweb.google.com/106270604207025299963/ShannonPhotos?authuser=0&feat=directlink

I suspect very few of us will scratch build the Supercat !
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« Reply #80 on: July 15, 2011, 01:57:47 pm »

I suspect very few of us will scratch build the Supercat !

don't know about that, kinmel.....you get me the full GA and line plans of the Shannon      , along with the plans for the supercat and between me and a certain Gribeaval [ if he's up to it] we'll have a bash........ now there's a challenge for you.
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Re: FCB2, Replacement for the Mersey Class
« Reply #81 on: July 15, 2011, 03:09:46 pm »



I was thinking of you two when I said few rather than no-one  :-))          I know it is well beyond my capabilities.

It is an awesome piece of kit to watch in action.
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« Reply #82 on: July 15, 2011, 04:16:24 pm »

I was on a short break in Llandudno this week and I saw the lifeboat being recovered and snapped it from my hotel balcony.



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Re: FCB2, Replacement for the Mersey Class
« Reply #83 on: July 15, 2011, 05:00:14 pm »




Should be a picture of the operation

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Re: FCB2, Replacement for the Mersey Class
« Reply #84 on: July 15, 2011, 07:00:38 pm »

don't know about that, kinmel.....you get me the full GA and line plans of the Shannon      , along with the plans for the supercat and between me and a certain Gribeaval [ if he's up to it] we'll have a bash........ now there's a challenge for you.
neil.

You just get me a decent GA drawing of the Supercat plus lots of pictures and as was said when I was in the Forces....  "Watch my tracer!!!!"



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Re: FCB2, Replacement for the Mersey Class
« Reply #85 on: July 24, 2011, 05:02:23 pm »

The FCB took to the water today with 6705russell at the helm. Running her on 12v at the moment, all seems to be working fine. She still needs to be finished off. There's a pic of Russ's 1/12 Whibty Trent Class too. Wait til I get my Severn done.... Dave.  :-))
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Re: FCB2, Replacement for the Mersey Class
« Reply #86 on: July 24, 2011, 07:57:43 pm »

This video shows the whole launching and recovery process    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aiqyxa7NYpE
some photos on Picasa too    https://picasaweb.google.com/106270604207025299963/ShannonPhotos?authuser=0&feat=directlink
I suspect very few of us will scratch build the Supercat !

Some great photos, the new tractor looks like something that would be at home on the Lunar surface! Dave.  :-))

https://picasaweb.google.com/106270604207025299963/ShannonPhotos?authuser=0&feat=directlink

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Re: FCB2, Replacement for the Mersey Class
« Reply #87 on: July 29, 2011, 09:38:16 pm »

Dave, its inspirational!
So much so in fact I have decided to produce the FCB in 1/12th scale as Speedline's next major project (now the LCM3 development is finished).
If anyone has any good info I would love to hear from you!
Adrian
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Re: FCB2, Replacement for the Mersey Class
« Reply #88 on: July 29, 2011, 09:41:50 pm »

That is the Flying Christine lll I spy is not?
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« Reply #89 on: July 30, 2011, 12:02:08 am »

you mean that, adrian.....yes it is,
am on with the original flying christine at the mo.
neil.
hows the steam tug going these days matey,
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« Reply #90 on: July 30, 2011, 12:11:53 am »

Neil you have done a great job on Flying Christine - is that the presentation one or the one staying in the family

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Re: FCB2, Replacement for the Mersey Class
« Reply #91 on: July 30, 2011, 09:45:55 am »

OH NO, geoff..that was the original model that I made for them, and is a model of the current boat, just been re engined and now does a stonking 25 knots.

the one I'm building at the mo is their original boat dating back to 1951.

pics below of the latest boat, and the old one is below that.
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Re: FCB2, Replacement for the Mersey Class
« Reply #92 on: July 30, 2011, 06:05:44 pm »

Dave, its inspirational!
So much so in fact I have decided to produce the FCB in 1/12th scale as Speedline's next major project (now the LCM3 development is finished).
If anyone has any good info I would love to hear from you!
Adrian

I'll be looking forward to seeing that Adrian.  O0  Will it be like the one on trials now? The new Shanon Class has a different hull shape but the superstructure is very similar. Keep us posted, Dave.  :-)) :-))
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« Reply #93 on: August 06, 2011, 06:33:20 pm »

It will be the one that the RNLI end up with.  It wont be released until we know just what that is for certain but we have begun thinking about timing etc .
We are doing the LCM3 and LCM6 now, then DC's Bluebird K7 and the Marinefahrprahn in 1/72 scale and 1/35th scale, then the lifeboat.
(For fun i'm building a resin 1/16th scale KV1 and a 1/18 scale Bell X1 in between times).
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Re: FCB2, Replacement for the Mersey Class
« Reply #94 on: September 03, 2011, 10:18:12 pm »

Hi Dave, i found this on youtube and thought you may want to take a look.

http://www.youtube.com/user/ahw0505#p/a/u/1/IBcTXJ7UGVg

http://www.youtube.com/user/ahw0505#p/a/u/0/Aiqyxa7NYpE

regards
Alan
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« Reply #95 on: September 04, 2011, 08:56:27 pm »

Hi there Alan, thanks for that, I'll bet the crew were a bit nervous heading for the beach! Not sure if the FCB will be heading for the SMAS as Russ is it's guardian these days, I've just got no room for anything at the moment.  {:-{
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« Reply #96 on: September 29, 2011, 08:38:25 pm »

Hi all,

Dave, can you please tell me what material you used for the windows and where you got it?

Great set of pictures for anyone attempting this build a model of this boat.

Have an interest in doing so myself since my youngest son helped to crew "Effseabee Too" from Poole to Dungeness a couple of months back. Note part of the plan but en route off of Eastbourne they prevented a fishing boat from sinking before the Eastbourne lifeboat reached the scene and completed the job.

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« Reply #97 on: September 30, 2011, 07:09:10 pm »

Hi all,

Dave, can you please tell me what material you used for the windows and where you got it?

Great set of pictures for anyone attempting this build a model of this boat.

Have an interest in doing so myself since my youngest son helped to crew "Effseabee Too" from Poole to Dungeness a couple of months back. Note part of the plan but en route off of Eastbourne they prevented a fishing boat from sinking before the Eastbourne lifeboat reached the scene and completed the job.

Alan C

Hi there, heard about the first shout for her, a good test for her and well done all round I say. The windows are just made from 1mm styrene sheet (available most model shops) cut to shape sprayed satin black (I use Halfords acrylic aerosols), they then had sheets of mirror finish stick on sheet put on to represent the windows (from Barry's Model Lettering). They're quite effective on the water reflecting their surroundings. The windows are only tacked on with 3m double sided tape as the intention is to cut them out properly eventually. Models By Design also do the FCB2 in 1/16 scale, I've got one still unbuilt and the windows are marked out on it so I just enlarged them, paper templates first to make sure they looked right then did them in styrene. Only took couple of hours to get them all cut out. Go build one, they're good fun! Dave.  :-))
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« Reply #98 on: October 02, 2011, 07:41:24 pm »

Hi all,

Dave, thanks for the info on the mirror windows.

As you probably know "EFFSEABEE TOO" is not equiped as a lifeboat but did have a salvage pump on board luckily for the "Jack Henry".
There was so much water in the engine room they couldn't see where it was coming in. Bit of a report in the Eastbourne Lifeboat website 25/07/2011.

If I build it, it will be 1/12 scale scale but info on the hull shape is as rare as the proverbial hen's teeth. Took some photos when it was on the beach (the trailer was knackered) but never had the wit to take the measurements. But of course I did not know drawings were not readily available at the time.

Can make the photos available if anyone is interested.

Yours,

Alan C
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« Reply #99 on: October 02, 2011, 08:01:00 pm »

Hi all,

Dave, thanks for the info on the mirror windows.

As you probably know "EFFSEABEE TOO" is not equiped as a lifeboat but did have a salvage pump on board luckily for the "Jack Henry".
There was so much water in the engine room they couldn't see where it was coming in. Bit of a report in the Eastbourne Lifeboat website 25/07/2011.

If I build it, it will be 1/12 scale scale but info on the hull shape is as rare as the proverbial hen's teeth. Took some photos when it was on the beach (the trailer was knackered) but never had the wit to take the measurements. But of course I did not know drawings were not readily available at the time.

Can make the photos available if anyone is interested.

Yours,

Alan C
Would be interesting to see your photos, Dave .
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