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NOOB needs help (lichfield)
« on: May 20, 2011, 09:59:05 pm »

hi im new to this forum and the r/c world in general

ive acquired several r/c ships from my stepfather along with a bunch of other r/c vehicles
the ships themselves are in varying conditions and scales however none of them work
and id like to restore them to sailing condition and sail them with a local club
but im unsure how to fix them and ive little experience with r/c
if there are any local members that could contact me to help get them fixed i would be very gratefull

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Re: NOOB needs help (lichfield)
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2011, 10:06:41 pm »

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Re: NOOB needs help (lichfield)
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2011, 10:11:17 pm »

Say again!
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Re: NOOB needs help (lichfield)
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2011, 10:17:48 pm »

Your question is very vague in what help you need so im going to refure you to a thread i wrote in about the terminology of rc bits in general, this may be able to help you sort your boats out should you not get any local help.

http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=28720.msg283775#msg283775

This should also help you ask better questions in which we can help you further should you get stuck.
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Re: NOOB needs help (lichfield)
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2011, 10:24:13 pm »

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Re: NOOB needs help (lichfield)
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2011, 10:26:41 pm »


This should also help you ask better questions in which we can help you further should you get stuck.
Bit patronizing dont you think ?  %)
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Re: NOOB needs help (lichfield)
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2011, 10:40:33 pm »

not really richard

when the guy asks for "local members" and then can't remember to put on his profile any location......we're not mind readers,

it's hard to help when the questions are so vague....he could be talking about ICE powered boats,  whilst someone  starts giiving advice on steam, lol %% %% %%

sometimes the questions posted on here are so vague and profound that you really need to be a magician.

so come on lilgoth89, give us a few more clues/ pics etc, and we'll be able to help.

neil.
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Re: NOOB needs help (lichfield)
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2011, 10:57:35 pm »

Are there any model boat clubs in Staffordshire?
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Re: NOOB needs help (lichfield)
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2011, 11:00:26 pm »

A model boat club based in Alton Towers. Now that would be something.
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Re: NOOB needs help (lichfield)
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2011, 11:01:32 pm »

youll find my location is in the thread title ( lichfield )
please also note, im autistic and not used to talking in these sorts of forums...
they are all electric powerd vessles
the one ive been tinkering with i can only move the rudder ( albeit intermittently )
it does seem to have a mind of its own sometimes tho....
 

the largest ship i own, although ive a feeling its to damaged to repair



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Re: NOOB needs help (lichfield)
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2011, 11:04:19 pm »

Oh yes, Potteries Model Boat Club, Burton Model boat Club, Chasewater Model boat Club, Crewe Model boat club....

Lilgoth, I am currently working on a project in Lichfield, (Beacon Park),give me a shout if need be and I can help you best I can...

Russ
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Re: NOOB needs help (lichfield)
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2011, 11:12:17 pm »

yeah any help would be massivly apprechiated, as you can see, the larger ship i was givern is in terrible shape, and ive neither the knowledge or the experience to fix it.
its full of bits that i assume were part of the superstructure as well as fittings and stuff...
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Re: NOOB needs help (lichfield)
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2011, 11:26:32 pm »

Lost for words Mike ?  {:-{

No, just hit the wrong button !!
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Re: NOOB needs help (lichfield)
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2011, 11:35:49 pm »

they look nice models beneath the ravages of time.

best bet is to start by stripping all electrics out and putting to one side........you can think about that at a later date.

make sure your prop shaft and rudder are free turning before anything else is started on. if they are ok, then its firstly a matter of cleaning off all the grime,  with warm soapy water, and lightly sand off the rough paint work.

now here's a tip when sanding off. the paintwork, but important for when you repaint.

you can usually tell what type of paint has been put on by the way it sands off and the way it smells when sanding. believe me.
if you rub it with a reasonably course paper..say 100 grade....if an oil based enamel it not only will clogg the sand paper in bigger lumps but it will smell of burnt paint.
celulose paint won't normally do that. also the paint will go rubbery when painted with oil/enamel paint.
when you come to repaint, it's worth klnowing that oil based /enamel paints will go over a cellulose paint with no trouble, but cellulose and acrylic paints won't go over the top of oil based/ enamels.
so you really have to take the paint down to base level.

once that has done, you can start to repair the damaged parts, and then we can get down to glues and adhesives used.

welcome to the world of model ship restoration and building......and please enjoy it.......we are all here to help.
neil. :-)) :-))
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Re: NOOB needs help (lichfield)
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2011, 02:49:43 am »

not really richard

when the guy asks for "local members" and then can't remember to put on his profile any location......we're not mind readers,

it's hard to help when the questions are so vague....he could be talking about ICE powered boats,  whilst someone  starts giiving advice on steam, lol %% %% %%

sometimes the questions posted on here are so vague and profound that you really need to be a magician.

so come on lilgoth89, give us a few more clues/ pics etc, and we'll be able to help.

neil.
I would have thought the heading of the posting would have been enough Neil.

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Re: NOOB needs help (lichfield)
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2011, 08:47:59 am »

It appears that some people are geographically challenged! :} :} :} :} :} :}
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Re: NOOB needs help (lichfield)
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2011, 09:19:50 pm »

ive been sorting out some more stuff and i found a few extra parts for the boats ( superstructure bits and fittings )
cleaned out all the stuff but cant figure out how to disconect the motor from the propeller
would apprechiate a message if youve time to drop by to give me a hand russel

its not suprising ppl havent heard of lichfield it is really small for a city...
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« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2011, 09:25:54 pm »

I would have thought the heading of the posting would have been enough Neil.

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 yeh richard, we've already established that, and moved on to the helping stage........can't be perfect all the time matey,  {-) {-)
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Re: NOOB needs help (lichfield)
« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2011, 09:29:07 pm »

its not suprising ppl havent heard of lichfield it is really small for a city...


oh it's a fine town, just didn't read far enough on the title. sorry.

mind you it is a draw to the town when you're on a narrow boat to know that there's a fine statue in the town of an even more famous sea captain.........or should that be imfamous sea captain. %% %% %%
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Re: NOOB needs help (lichfield)
« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2011, 09:33:15 pm »

as for disconnecting the motor on the top boat......it's a huco universal coupling, there will usually be a little allen key'd grub screw that needs untightening to the end fitted onto the motor shaft, and a threaded screw fit to the end of the propellor shaft.
once you've loosened the motor from the bed that holds it, the motor will just pull out from the splined ends of the coupling and then you can take those ends off the motor and shaft in the way i've sain.
neil.
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« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2011, 10:14:31 pm »

Will to help you even though I am from North wales BUT as I am engaged to a lovely girl form Twycross I am up every other weekend so it wont be a prob to lend a hand



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« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2011, 10:34:40 pm »

stavros -- i,m not far from twycross and have met 'a lovely girl' from north wales, we'll have to have a pint in the redgate sometime, maybe we should swap houses   ;) {-) {-)
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Re: NOOB needs help (lichfield)
« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2011, 10:37:39 pm »

well mixed news... the iron duke now responds to commands most of the time, but has an annoying tendancy to go ballistic sometimes
the alte liebe ( larger tug ) got the motor out, and found 2 small holes in the fiberglass hull can these be patched ? ?
the deck also came loose ( and then came out when i turned it upside down >_< )









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« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2011, 03:09:06 am »

lilgoth89 ...in model making...there a very few things that cannot be "patched"....however a few points for your consideration

1. remove those two lightly glued atwart ship wooden sections & possibly that vertical post in the bow section
2. a brisk sand to remove all loose & flaking paint from the complete hull internal or more recently added glueings
3. locate the two hull perforation's/holes abrade the surrounding hull surface...then use PVC insulation tape over the holes on the external surface
4. depending on the sizing of these holes you could simply add automotive car BOG or epoxy resin & glass cloth
5. if you chose automotive car BOG ...you could get a suitably sized nitrile o-ring ...tack down with super glue.....the fill the void of the o-ring with the bog....when hardened remove the o-ring & you have a substantially strong disk of material
6. replacement wooden atwart beams can be positioned & secured back to the hull sides in a similar manner with o-rings forming the disk pads & car BOG
7. a lot further down the track....the hull externals will need a rubdown with 1200 wet & dry paper & any imperfections corrected again with car BOG  O0


Keep us posted with your progress .....Derek
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Re: NOOB needs help (lichfield)
« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2011, 07:43:55 am »

Lilgoth. Like you when i started to model boats again. Every thing was confusing. It takes time to proceed.
Im sure with the help of fellow members you will end up with a boat to be proud of. Its a great feeling when
your model sails for the first time. Good luck. John.
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