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bikerdude666

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Re: HMS Hood
« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2011, 08:53:56 pm »

I have to say I am very tempted as I will never have the money to buy the kit outright, but which 1 would be best, is there going to be that much difference between 2 kits of the same ship?
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mikearace

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Re: HMS Hood
« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2011, 09:03:12 pm »

The hatchette I would guess as I am sure that the advertised d'agostini version is the test shot that was discontinued a couple of months ago.  Hatchette do seem to have a better record I think of delivering from start to finish
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Re: HMS Hood
« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2011, 10:30:19 pm »

All partwork companies test their product, its just a case of how well a test does that dictates if an item then gets put out as a national item; obviously the test for the other company can't have gone too well; it seems a very high risk business to be in if you ask me, as there is no guarantee of take-up number.
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« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2011, 05:52:26 am »

One of the main advantages of partworks is that they are much easier to get under the wife radar.
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Re: HMS Hood
« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2011, 08:41:08 am »

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Re: HMS Hood
« Reply #30 on: August 26, 2011, 01:43:26 pm »

£880 for the Hood any takers,thats before you think of putting r/c in

It's actually £825.12 to complete the series :-))


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The hms hood magazine
« Reply #31 on: August 26, 2011, 08:06:46 pm »

Hey just wondered if anybody else was collecting this magazine as well i picked up my first part today looks really good and it's quite interesting reading about her :)
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« Reply #32 on: August 26, 2011, 09:30:28 pm »

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« Reply #33 on: August 27, 2011, 03:22:41 pm »

Hey just wondered if anybody else was collecting this magazine as well i picked up my first part today looks really good and it's quite interesting reading about her :)

Food for thought if your buying it for the R/C version, the cost or spec for the R/C option is not actually stated in the first issue or when this info will be provided; Therefore the legality of of not providing this info at the outset might to be in question, otherwise how are you supposed to know what the total cost of the R/C version is at the outset, where possibly you could be a stack of mag's into the build before you get to find out; oddly enough they show no images of the R/C version at all.
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Re: HMS Hood
« Reply #34 on: August 27, 2011, 03:47:42 pm »

It shouldn't be that hard to convert to rc even if there isn't any instructions should it ? One thing I'm a bit worried about is I have just subscribed to it but now read that it couldn't run the full course did the Bismarck one run full course
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« Reply #35 on: August 27, 2011, 04:43:43 pm »

The TV advertised things always seem to run their course, so I dont think you have any fear on that front, and if as they say there is an option for R/C then instructions will be provided based around the inclusion of the equipment they plan to sell, (which you dont yet know the price of, its spec or have images of the end result), where the R/C version will have compromises.
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« Reply #36 on: August 27, 2011, 05:46:00 pm »

Yeah they do state it can be rc on back first issue I am really looking forward to getting started on it I'm using my pocket money to get it through my dad :)
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Re: HMS Hood
« Reply #37 on: August 27, 2011, 09:41:37 pm »

140 weeks is an awful long time to tie your pocket money up, good luck with it.
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« Reply #39 on: August 31, 2011, 11:07:43 am »

Why anyone would buy one is a mystery to me, seeing as the Arkmodel one is £420 cheaper....

http://twin-horse.com/product_info.php?cPath=148_153_190&products_id=135
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« Reply #40 on: August 31, 2011, 12:26:55 pm »

I cant see the problem myself if somebody wants to pay out the £830 why should we butt in, it might be the only way they can afford to pay for it,i know someone whos built the Bismarck, yamato and is now doing the Hood,he admits they are expesive but also says they isnt any other way he could afford it after he retired. he hasnt got the skill to build a semi kit so that kinda leaves him stuck without these.

As for the arkmodel one, have you ever tried to order one?
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« Reply #41 on: August 31, 2011, 03:17:42 pm »

I really can't see why people take such offence to these partworks

If you dont like the subject matter or think its overpriced then its simple don't buy it! but there is no need to belittle others for choosing this route.  At the end of the day anything that introduces people into model boating etc can only be a good thing.

Im sorry for the rant but it seems like some people are getting very blinkered in their views, and think their opinion is the only one that counts.

I choose to build my victory as a partwork... yes I can get it cheaper but I'm actually enjoying reading the magazines and the modelspace build forum is a very good source of information.

Do i think its overpriced? maybe a little but I'm happy and that's the important thing
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mikearace

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Re: HMS Hood
« Reply #42 on: August 31, 2011, 03:36:12 pm »

Personally I dont get the attraction of them Essex and I dont trust them to run their course but at the end of the day its a personal choice and if this is the way someone wants to buy and build a model well thats down to them as an individual regardless of others views.  I know there are some lovely Bismarks out there from the part works and if it works for you then best of luck with the build. 
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Re: HMS Hood
« Reply #43 on: August 31, 2011, 03:51:32 pm »

The DM have jumped on the same bandwagon

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2032115/Enough-cash-sink-battleship-How-model-enthusiasts-pay-831-build-magazine-series-replica-HMS-Hood.html

I suppose its like any major outlay, do your homework then make an informed choice, and at the end of the day no one is forcing anyone to buy.

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« Reply #44 on: August 31, 2011, 04:17:21 pm »

Its funny they say it will take over 2 years to complete is that relevant?

If one was to buy a complete kit in one go, would it be finished any quicker?

My victory build is at issue 60 but I've only completed it to issue 20!
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Re: HMS Hood
« Reply #45 on: August 31, 2011, 06:13:02 pm »

I really can't see why people take such offence to these partworks

Do i think its overpriced? maybe a little but I'm happy and that's the important thing

I think that it’s the price that gets to people, compared to what you could have got if you spent that much
money on a kit.  And it's not just the cost of all the parts, it’s the glues, fillers. Varnishes,  paints,  sandpaper,
tools (as required), not to mention the RC stuff… I would say another £150 - £200 on top!

How many people would justify £1,000 for a model kit?

BTW:  http://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/graupner-hms-hood.html

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nhp651

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Re: HMS Hood
« Reply #46 on: August 31, 2011, 06:23:00 pm »


How many people would justify £1,000 for a model kit?


perhaps I could try to justify this martin, as I am guilty in the past of a) knocking these and b) also being owner of no less than 4 speedline models all costing well over that price with paints glues motors etc.

If you equate that to say at least 500 - 750 hours of enjoyment in actually building the thing, plus the countless hours that you get at the end of the build by sailing the model this usually works out at less than £1.50 - 2.00 per hour.

If you go to the pub and can get through 3 pints an hour at £2.50...that's £7.50 for one hour's enjoyment and nothing to show at the end of your visit....go to the cinema for 2 hours and you pay up to a tenner with only memories to show........so spending £1.50 an hour on your favorite hobby, is to me very good value indeed.

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Re: HMS Hood
« Reply #47 on: August 31, 2011, 07:32:49 pm »

Good reasoning!   :-)
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Re: HMS Hood
« Reply #48 on: August 31, 2011, 07:47:04 pm »

 A Long time ago ,I built the bounty turned out very nice too ,then ,not too long ago I took on the titanic ,did my bit as it was a pass around the boys ,and it has been finnished beleive me the enjoyment this created ,the pleasure we all got out of it ,we all learnt a bit some picked it up better than others ,but the thing was ,it was a shared venture ,it had been in a fellas house for ages and he just wanted rid ,so my better half suggested we get a group from an organisation and this we did .Hey presto the finnished model is now in the midlands ,we all let the model go to a family who had a connection ,we all felt good about it ,and now looking back ,you cannot put a price on a project like that ,some of us  ,we look back at this venture ,and boy we were amazed at what we did .
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« Reply #49 on: August 31, 2011, 08:04:54 pm »

I think that says it all.
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