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Kangaroo1

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Help me choose a winter project?
« on: September 20, 2011, 01:43:32 pm »

All, I am a relative newbie and have recently completed my second sailboat, which I enjoy sailing very much! However, I anticipate the need to find another project once the nights draw in, to save me from the mindless drivel that seems to be broadcast on tv these days.

I am therefore looking for another model to build, but I am seriously considering something that is powered (electrically) rather than sail. I have trawled for hours over this website to gain ideas, but to be honest I am at a loss to choose which way to turn. I kinda like the idea of a warship, as an ex-matelot (well, a WAFU!), but these look expensive. Or possibly a tug?

I don't want one of those "out of the box" running models. I'm not sure I've got the patience, equipment or the capability, to build from scratch, from plans, but I'd be quite happy with a kit that is fairly detailed.

I don't have a huge budget either... maybe somewhere around £100 max (to include running gear, but not R/C gear).

Firstly, can anyone tel me if my limited budget means it is a mere pipe dream? But, if not, can anyone suggest a model that might suit?

Thanks in advance guys!
P.S. I cannot believe that "WAFU" wasn't picked up by the spell checker!
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rmaddock

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Re: Help me choose a winter project?
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2011, 02:40:44 pm »

How about a military launch...sort of thing.
There's a build on-going right now of a kit available on fleaBay for a Vosper RLLT: http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=32264.0
I quite fancy something like this myself.
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Re: Help me choose a winter project?
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2011, 04:35:09 pm »

How about a military launch...sort of thing.
There's a build on-going right now of a kit available on fleaBay for a Vosper RLLT: http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=32264.0
I quite fancy something like this myself.

Thats perfick  a 'crab' barge for a WAFU  {-)  {-)  {-)

You will need bow and stern thrusters so it will go sideways  %%  %%


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Re: Help me choose a winter project?
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2011, 04:43:18 pm »

For a R/C warship with a budget of £100 including running gear, your options are fairly limited (there's a lot more around the £200 mark) but there are still a few possibilities. The most obvious is the Revell/Matchbox Flower-class corvette, great subject and relatively easy to convert to R/C with a single big prop and rudder plus a sturdy (by plastic kit standards) hull. The kit isn't currently in production but usually goes for around £65-70 second hand on eBay etc. (you'll probably pay less if you can find one in a model shop); you can get a brass propellor for around £10 and a decent quality motor prop shaft/tube for about the same price each, so this would be just about within your budget.

Another fairly low-budget possibility is the Italeri 1/35 Schnellboot at around £90 for the kit, but with 3 props the running gear for this will be more pricey especially if you opt for fast motors. Same for their 1/35 PT boat although the kit for this is a bit cheaper.

As rmaddock says, there are a couple of quite affordable kits available for the Vosper RTTL (post-war RAF launch, like the one at the Hendon museum), both of these (the other is made by Model Slipways - http://www.modelslipway.com/Vosper_RTTL/Vosper%20RTTL.htm ) will work out at £100 or less including running gear.
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tony52

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Re: Help me choose a winter project?
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2011, 05:38:59 pm »

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rmaddock

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Re: Help me choose a winter project?
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2011, 05:47:14 pm »

The Kitshack Vosper  RTTL looks interesting at £60 on ebay. A full build log is underway on this forum.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vosper-RTTL-700mm-R-C-model-boat-kit-/220816941893?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item3369b72345

http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=32068.0

I think that's the one I referred to above, but the build (if it's the same one) is happening in another thread (see above).
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tony52

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Re: Help me choose a winter project?
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2011, 05:52:32 pm »

Sorry to have repeated your post rmaddock.

Must say though, like yourself I could fancy this one.

Tony.

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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2011, 06:13:27 pm »

As the person building the KitShack Vosper RTTL, I couldn't recommend it for a beginner - it does require some skills - I think the Model Slipway would be a better bet. The Kitshack doesn't include or show location of propshaft or rudder, whereas the MS one includes these and a motor.

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Kangaroo1

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Re: Help me choose a winter project?
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2011, 10:34:20 pm »

Thanks for your input chaps!

I initially looked at the modelslipway launch, which does look quite reasonable and within budget..... even if it is a "crab" boat! ;)

I also checked out the Vosper, but was a bit daunted by the prospect, having checked out Barrie's comments and build log..Then I took a look at the corvette... wow! i have to say this looked a very interesting challenge for build/conversion.... until I checked out the availability! It seems that it's out of stock everywhere and some sites even said discontinued. I saw one, partially built, on ebay, but I only found one kit on one site, for £75, not including insurance/shipping. But I couldn't actually add it to the cart, so I might have to call them tomorrow.

I'll also drop into my local model shop tomorrow, 'cos they don't list their kits on their website, just in case they might have one... but I'm not holding my breath!

I may therefore have to settle (quite happily) for the modelslipway launch...

One last dumb question (for the moment!).... could you conceivably convert ANY Revell type of kit, of a similar scale, to R/C?

Thanks to all!
Steve.

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« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2011, 04:27:30 pm »

Forgot to add in my last post, there's one other option I can think of for a decent-sized, low budget RC warship - the Lindberg 1/125 scale "Blue Devil" Fletcher-class destroyer. This is about £70 in the UK though you can sometimes find a cheaper second-hand example on eBay. It makes an approx. 3ft long model with twin props and rudders (replacement propshafts and motors are definitely recommended, the kit ones - if they're included - are cheap and flimsy) and the scale is large enough for plenty of detail without being too fragile.
However, unlike the Revell Corvette, which is lacking in fine detail but basically accurate, the Lindberg Fletcher is very crude and inaccurate - making a decent scale model out of one is a lot of work (I've tried myself!) But for a semi/standoff-scale R/C model, it's more than good enough. There are a few relatively easy + quick fixes that improve the appearance a lot, like lengthening the main gun barrels and replacing the (solid plastic) radar with metal mesh.

Regarding your question - Just about any plastic model boat/ship with a full hull (i.e not waterline like most 1/700 kits) can theoretically be converted to R/C, but the small scale and size of most kits introduces many problems, not least actually fitting R/C gear, battery and motors into them! 1/350 battleships and heavy cruisers are big enough, but fine details are very prone to getting damaged, and it's hard to get them running at anything resembling a scale speed; 1/72 MTBs/PT boats, lifeboats, tugs etc. are a big enough scale for fine detail like railings, but even the larger German Schnellboots are a bit marginal as regards hull size and weight. But there are numerous kits out there which are quite suitable for R/C, such as the Lindberg 1/72ish tug and trawler, Revell 1/72 German lifeboat "Hermann Marwede" and 1/144 Fletcher-class destroyer, and others. These might be a bit small for a first-time project though (the Fletcher is near 3ft, but quite narrow and shallow; the Lindberg one, as well as being a bigger scale, has a hull deeper than scale to make it more stable)

There are also two battleship kits in 1/200 scale - Trumpeter's USS Arizona and Nichimo's IJN Yamato - but both of these are well over £100 (£200-odd in the case of the Yamato!) just for the kit alone.
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Kangaroo1

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Re: Help me choose a winter project?
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2011, 01:18:21 pm »

Hi guys,

Firstly, thanks to all for your feedback! I really appreciate the advice out there.

Secondly, I just wanted to let you know that I made a decision, and this morning I ordered the RTTL kit from Model Slipway. Yes Ned, a crab barge for a WAFU! ......Well, what would a WAFU know about boats anyway? ;)

Thirdly, please let me assure you that I haven't dismissed the other suggestions that you made Ed. It's just that at my tender age (in model making terms!) I think that the RTTL kit is probably about as far as I can go realistically with my current abilities. But I'll certainly bear in mind your other recommendations for my 3rd project...

Thanks again.
Steve.
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