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solent class
« on: July 18, 2012, 04:56:34 pm »

Does anyone have some decent pics or plans of this boat. Have got an Aerokits 1/12 one that im renovating. It was Lady Macrobert 48-014 but the boat looks wrong in the cabIN AREA. ie wrong mast / radar.
The few pics I have got are not clear. Ideally Id like a book on  that class, but so far no luck!!
Also Im thinking of changing the boat to the Isle of White one, but again little info an virtually no pics!!
will upload some pics once the weather clears up and I can get to the Boat shed!!
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Re: solent class
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2012, 08:16:32 pm »

If you're just doing a renovation of the boat then i would recommend only building it as one of the last three boats, Lady MacRobert (Montrose), Hugh William Viscount Gough (Stornoway) or Douglas Currie (which went everywhere) because the Aerokit is based on a Mk 2 Solent which had a different supertructure to the earlier boats. If you want to build it as the Bembridge (IoW) boat then you'll need to build a new superstructure with sliding doors as opposed to watertight doors.


Douglas Currie, a Mk 2 with the wheelhouse further forward and a fixed mast


Three Sisters, the last Mk 1 with the wheelhouse aft and a folding mast.

There are plenty of photos of Douglas Currie on the net, because after service her owners have kept her pretty much original.

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Re: solent class
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2012, 04:35:07 pm »

The RNLI will supply you with the plans. The order form can be found here:

http://www.barryweb.co.uk/downloads/orderform.pdf

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Re: solent class
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2012, 07:44:44 pm »

more questions!!
1 my main mast goes upright with a light on top and a cross H bar, is this correct?? or should it lean back at about 30 degrees

2 the df loop is at the back of the cabin and is a single loop. is this correct or should it be a double loop sphere?

3 the main radar, is the whole assembly from deck up white, or frame orange and rotating part white?

4. running lights p/s I understand, but on the main  mast is a white white light does this only come onl with the p/s lights?? it only faces forward is this correct????

5 on top of the cabin roof after the main mast but before the df loop is a blue light, when was this used? day / night or on a shout irrelevant of time??
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Re: solent class
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2012, 08:51:05 pm »

Here we go - I'll try and answer all the questions as best I can

The mast depends on the boat you're building. As far as I found when I built (partially) my solent, there are three different masts. This photo has all three.



The boat on the left (I don't know which one it is) has the mast they had when they were built to go afloat, because it can't fold. This had an angled section going up to a crossbar, which has two braces fixed to it's ends. Above this is a vertical piece which has what I think is the HF aerial on it.

Douglas Currie

The boat in the centre has a folding mast - this doesn't have the vertical piece, and the braces bolt to the main upright. The HF aerial is at each end of the crossbar.

Three Sisters

The boat on the right has a mix of the two - possibly because it was put into reserve after serving at a slipway station, I don't know. This is essentially the folding mast with the braces fixing to the ends of the crossbeams.
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Re: solent class
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2012, 09:04:59 pm »

As with the DF loop, from the photos I've got the slipway boats had a single, hinged loop that folds flat to the wheelhouse roof, while the afloat boats (with the fixed masts) had a fixed twin loop.

The radar varied for each boat. The actual mast is always orange but the unit itself is either white or grey. Some boats had a box under the scanner, which was either white or orange

North Foreland, a Watson but the radar was standard

I think most of the boats had this radar though, which was more often than not dark grey



This appears on lots of different types of boats, but in the photo of the three solents the centre and right boats have it.
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Re: solent class
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2012, 09:15:11 pm »

The mast light is only a forward facing white light, and as far as I know comes on with the nav lights.

The blue beacon isn't on the wheelhouse roof, it's on the top / top platform of the mast (you can see it on the photo with the three boats)

The best way of working out what's right on your model is looking at photographs of the boat you want to build. Which is it, by the way?

I hope all this helps.

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Re: solent class
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2012, 06:46:46 am »

At the moment lady macrobert. Ill keep her as this now. I really wanted to do the isle of wight solent but that's a mk1
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Re: solent class
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2012, 04:16:20 pm »

This is the only photo I could find. There are probably more, but this has the answers to most of your questions.

Lady MacRobert on relief at Dunbar. She has the tall mast, box radar, twin DF loop and interestingly black wiper boxes.

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Re: solent class
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2012, 10:22:18 pm »

 thanks for putting up these superb photos !
although I think they were the most ugly Lifeboat ever designed,they don't look at all bad in your photos.I have two of them in 1/12th scale,but never display them.I may get round to changing the electrics in my better model,they have the old MacGregor controls which worked fine on test,but as soon as the boat had a few minutes in the water,they started playing up.
I note also from your photos,that the waterline is very different to that suggested for the model.
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Re: solent class
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2012, 11:46:55 pm »

No problem, Mick. I don't think it looks too bad... After all, they were built to be functional, and after a while they grow on you!

I've not had a good experience with Solent models. I have 3, a mk1, a mk2 and an unstarted one (which will probably be an Oakley if I ever get round to it), all aerokits. The first two were donated unfinished to Chatham, so I adopted them to finish, but then I found out why they were abandoned. One has a nasty twist in the hull, and the other's not put together particularly well.

Personally, I don't follow the instructions for finishing, going by the standard of the photograph of the model on the box lid, which has the number 48-01... which was an Oakley... with a unique superstructure...

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