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World War Two Guns
« on: January 31, 2013, 12:58:50 pm »

Hi,
I am looking for guns for an upcoming navy boat.
 
2x 3inch but not in enclosed turrets. The barer the better.
 
6 Orlickons (?)
 
all in 1/72 scale.
 
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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2013, 01:31:11 pm »

Try White Ensign Models They have some resin and Photo Etch kits to 1/72nd  You didn't say which nationality! 
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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2013, 08:00:54 am »

Hi TailUK,
 
Thanks for the tip.
 
She is an Royal Navy LSI.
 
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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2013, 02:38:42 am »

Hi,
What about APS Models in NSW.
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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2013, 11:47:51 am »

We regularly send to Australia and have a retailer "Floataboat " in Melbourne. We also have an on-line shop with all fittings pictured. www.johnrhaynes.com
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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2013, 07:06:22 am »

Hi all,
I shall have a look.
 
I know Adrian and Rhonda well at Floataboat but I did not know they have the JR Haynes parts.
 
I will email Rhonda later.
 
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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2013, 08:17:20 am »

3" sound more US guns than RN. Try Allan Pew, he might have something usable for an LSI.
 
Oerlikons he has, not sure which mark though.
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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2013, 08:55:36 am »

Try this link, scroll down the HR products items to 1/72 andf they have a 3".
 
http://www.loyalhannadockyard.com/Fittings1.htm
 
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« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2013, 12:48:06 pm »

Hi,
Quick history lesson, remembering that a lot of guns at the start of WW2 were antiques.
 
The QF 12 pounder 12 cwt gun was a common, versatile 3-inch (76 mm) calibre naval gun introduced in 1894 and used until the middle of the 20th century. It was produced by Armstrong Whitworth, Elswick and used on Royal Navy warships, and exported to allied countries. In British service, "12 pounder" was a rounded reference to the projectile weight and "12 cwt" referred to the weight of the barrel and breech : 12 hundredweight = 12 x 112 pounds = 1344 pounds, to differentiate it from other "12 pounder" guns. As the Type 41 3-inch (76.2 mm)/40 it was used on most early battleships and cruisers of the Imperial Japanese Navy, though it was commonly referred to by its UK designation as a “12-pounder” gun.
 
Now for some good news:
 
1/72 scale figures:
 
http://www.sgts-mess.com/britishnavy.html
http://www.halifaxmodellersworld.co.uk/gunthwaite-miniatures-238-c.asp
http://www.hecker-goros.de/html/kshg_209.html
http://www.zinnfigur.com/index.php?cPath=2_275_2387_467_470&language=en&osCsid=0oah4qbel38ra09iog1v24ro03
 
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« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2013, 02:18:33 am »

 What do you mean by LSI? 
What the RN called LSIs in WW2 (Landing Ship Infantry), were mercantile conversions e.g. converted cross channel ferries etc. rather than design new build.
The US had purpose built vessels called LCIs (Landing Craft Infantry). The US didn’t call them LSIs until after the war.
If you intend to build type of vessel shown attached, it is an LCI (L). L for large and they were all built in the US with US armament
BTW, Floataboat in Melbourne stock Gunthwaite.
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« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2013, 06:59:57 am »

Hi,
Unfortunately the Americans decided to re classify the Royal Navy's LSI to Transport Assault.
 
LSIs  (Landing Ship Infantry) came in Large, Medium and Small varieties.
 
So the ship I want to make is the HMS Prins Albert, a converted cross channel ferry was designated in the Royal Navy as an LSI(Small).
 
There was one,however, where the Landing Craft were slipped off the stern of the Ship:
 
Launched as LNER Railways Ferry 'Train Ferry No.1' of the Harwich Fleet in 1917. She was purchased for conversion to an LSS (Landing Ship Stern Chute) by the Admiralty for WW2 workings. After the war she was transferred back to her original use and given a third name of 'Essex Ferry' then subsequently broken up at Grays c1957. (Launch to Breaking - 40 years).Photograph attached.
 
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« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2013, 09:16:52 am »

A Belgium cross channel ferry. You must have had fun finding photos in camo and plans for her. She will look good on the water. Just over 5 foot long.
If you like LSS variants, find this book. They have some small drawings of them in it.
PS Nuts to what the Yanks called them , my RN books show them as LSIs.  :}
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« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2013, 12:18:57 pm »


So the ship I want to make is the HMS Prins Albert, a converted cross channel ferry was designated in the Royal Navy as an LSI(Small).


HMS Prins Albert, 8 LCP(L) or LCA or LCS(M), two 12 pdr, two 2 pdr and six 20mm. This is the only photo that I have.


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« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2013, 12:29:36 pm »

Hi all,
 
My Dad served on the HMS Prins Albert as an Able Seaman but was also in Combined Operations, Special Services and was trained as a Royal Navy Commando.
 
Attached are part of the plans and the ship underway.
 
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« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2013, 10:11:22 pm »

Out of curiosity, are you a member of Task Force 72 or joining it?
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« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2013, 07:42:10 am »

Hi,
 
No I am neither a member or thinking about joining them.
 
I see many of them at the Port Macquarie Model Show each year.
 
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