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daveh

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« on: May 31, 2015, 12:16:30 pm »

Hi all
Can anyone help I am thinking of building  a 74 gun ship of the line I have already built the victory from mantua plans .can anyone suggest where I can get the plans for such a ship
many thanks Dave

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Re: plans
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2015, 12:21:34 pm »

Anatomy of the Ship: Bellona would be my first port-of-call.

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Re: plans
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2015, 10:36:12 am »

Does anyone have any Aeropiccola ship plans out there ?
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Re: plans
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2015, 11:35:24 am »

Try John lambert plans,info in model magazines sorry don't have his email address
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Re: plans
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2015, 05:48:27 am »

How deep are your pockets??


The 74 gun ship - practical treatise of Naval art 1780 in 4 volumes - by Jean Boudriot.


Available direct from the publisher Ancre (ancre.fr)


English version will only set you back 416 euros....


Otherwise, Cornwall model boats list a number of plans - these appear to be the plan sets supplied with kits.
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Re: plans
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2015, 07:30:51 am »

Try these people, this link goes to one set of plans for a 74, there may also be others buried in the site.


http://www.model-dockyard.com/cgi-bin/ss000001.pl?RANDOM=NETQUOTEVAR%3ARANDOM&PAGE=SEARCH&SO=1_3_4_0&SS=74+&TB=A&PR=-1&GB=A&SX=2&ACTION=Search
These people are also very good for scale parts.
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Re: plans
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2015, 06:50:51 pm »

Somewhat less expensive than Boudriot is Rees's Naval Architecture of 1819-1920 which has the main drawings and a complete construction guide from ground up. It was reprinted by Conways some years ago and cost £8.00.
You'll need to get your 'f' and 's' sorted of course.
Also, don't forget that the proper plans don't have masting or rigging stuff.

Good Luck

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Re: plans
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2015, 11:11:07 am »

call me stupid but if I have plans at 1/100 and I would like to blow them up to 1/24 do I times them by 3  blow them up by 300 %
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Re: plans
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2015, 02:09:58 pm »

to convert 1:100 to 1:24 you need to multiply by 4.17. 1:25 would require multiplying by 4. Multiplying by 3 would give 1:33 and a bit.


Going up in scale (that is getting larger) divide the big number by the small number. Getting smaller divide the small number by the bigger.
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« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2015, 04:44:09 pm »

so what your saying is copy the plans by 400% giving me 1/24 scale. The idea is hms bellona in 1/24 scale
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Re: plans
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2015, 06:10:13 pm »

If this is the HMS Bellona you mean https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Bellona_(1760) then at 168ft for the original plans at 1:100 would give a length of 20.16 inches. At 1:24 the model would be 84 inches long (that's 7 feet!) 84 divided by 20.16 = 4.17. So yes 417%.


Hope you've got a big workshop  :-))
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« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2015, 06:33:43 pm »

yes thats the one ,,,I  have built the victory there be some photos on here of  it . Size all based on what I can get in the van LOL
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Re: plans
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2015, 02:31:39 am »

Dave


Did you source your plans yet?
If so, where from and how much?
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« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2015, 09:33:09 am »

yes came yesterday got  them from cornwall models boats .co.uk  they cost about £37.00 incl delivery they are corel plans 1/100 very detailed

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Re: plans
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2015, 07:20:13 pm »

I have the plans in 100 scale whats the best way to scale up to 1/24 scale ie how to do it ?
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Re: plans
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2015, 01:38:15 am »

It depends on how big your original sheets are.
If you are already large then blowing them up full size, by a factor of about 4, does risk distortion in copying. The paper comes on a roll and can stretch as it goes through. Sheets would also be a pig to handle.


Personally, I have found it easy to measure from the plan with dividers (for accuracy), and then use a calculator to convert to the new measurement. Once you have worked out your multiplication ratio (r) it is as easy as:

                     length x r            where (for your case) r = 100/24 = 4.166666

You can also buy or make proportional/scale dividers, as the fulcrum is not at the centre if you measure at one end, they are wider at the other by the correct amount. Some scale dividers are adjustable. You could even make your own custom pair fixed to this scale. You can get really accurate architect's grade, but they are expensive.

There are also scale rulers, a bit difficult to describe, but they basically have six scales, they are popular with some of the railway modellers.


I am sure others have their methods and will add to the list.
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Re: plans
« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2015, 09:22:06 pm »

collected the plans today had them blown up by 4 times
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