Topic: semi scale borodino (Read 43698 times)

timg · « **Reply #75 on:** April 08, 2016, 10:37:41 pm »

Looking good Pete , and she does sail well, you wouldn't know she has a flat bottom

Hopefully catch up with you soon

Spud

petesubman · « **Reply #76 on:** April 22, 2016, 09:48:38 am »

The uss independence is approaching completion, here are a couple of pics this project was a nod to fleischmann and marklin tinplate battleships, this ones cardplate, regards pete

raflaunches · « **Reply #77 on:** April 22, 2016, 11:30:17 am »

Pete

I love what you've achieved, both with your Borodino, Thunderchild and now your Independence. These are the closest to what I would like to build one day as a steampunk battleship, can't wait to see them for real at Mayhem weekend- hope you can still make it.

petesubman · « **Reply #78 on:** April 23, 2016, 09:28:14 am »

Thankyou for your comments , the inspiration for uss independence came from a now out of print book called toy boats 1879 to 1955 , might a number or two out but its still around on amazon cost me 10 pounds and its crammed full of liners battleships and diving submarines some of the guns actually fired using a powder charge! One these 42inch beautys could be purchased for a mere 300 gold francs in 1904 of courrse. Regards pete

ballastanksian · « **Reply #79 on:** April 23, 2016, 11:47:50 am »

On the Independance, did you soak the card to get it to curve around for the bilges Pete? It looks very smooth.

Lovely work

petesubman · « **Reply #80 on:** April 23, 2016, 01:56:53 pm »

Yes the card was sprayed with water and rolled around a tin of beans the cut to shape, the funnels main and secondary turrets are left over plumbing plastic pipe the funnel bands are o rings as are the bases on the main armament , never throw everything away

ballastanksian · « **Reply #81 on:** April 23, 2016, 07:46:58 pm »

Amen fellow OCD collector

petesubman · « **Reply #82 on:** May 13, 2016, 03:40:48 pm »

More pics of borodino ,plumbing now uprated and working well rear upper turrets now fitted she sailed well in the windy conditions at one point i thought i had a bow thruster fitted, regards Pete

petesubman · « **Reply #83 on:** June 10, 2016, 12:19:24 pm »

Finally been able to get borodinos plumbing sorted , i managed to trash the heat shield but she now makes steam on both funnels and the gnome enjoyed it to, regards pete

ballastanksian · « **Reply #84 on:** June 10, 2016, 09:49:17 pm »

That is a good sized boiler Pete!

petesubman · « **Reply #85 on:** June 10, 2016, 10:38:02 pm »

Hi Ian , the unit is d48 wilesco marine engine its regarded as a toy steam engine , i have fitted a ceramic burner which greatly improves the performance of these engines, regards pete

ballastanksian · « **Reply #86 on:** June 11, 2016, 10:48:19 pm »

If it works and does not threat to incinerate your boat then I don't think it is fair to call ity a toy especially as it has to be as safe as any expensive boiler.

petesubman · « **Reply #87 on:** June 11, 2016, 11:30:01 pm »

I have to agree Ian , i have two of these d48 engines and they are very effective and reliable and will turn a 60 mm prop with ease , I have one in borodino and one in massena, regards pete

petesubman · « **Reply #88 on:** September 30, 2016, 10:59:19 pm »

Its been a while, borodino is nearly completed, but i have decided to complete her in anthracite just have to add ships boats , will post pics,regards pete

raflaunches · « **Reply #89 on:** October 01, 2016, 07:24:15 am »

Good idea Pete

One thing I've learnt from plastic model aircraft is that pure black paint doesn't work in scale and anthracite is perfect to represent black paint, same with white paint, a creamier colour works better.
Looking forward to the pictures

ballastanksian · « **Reply #90 on:** October 01, 2016, 03:41:15 pm »

Amen! I can't wait:O)

petesubman · « **Reply #91 on:** October 02, 2016, 12:54:26 pm »

Trying out a new rivet look , using metal tape, a dressmakers tracing wheel on the last two secondary turrets , will probably complete the remaining superstructure

ballastanksian · « **Reply #92 on:** October 02, 2016, 05:30:51 pm »

That is a well tried and usually successful technique Pete. It looks like it does the job well.

Geoff · « **Reply #93 on:** October 05, 2016, 01:42:46 pm »

Looking good but just remember that there are no rivet details on the side of the turrets (And arguably the roofs) as they were made of armour plate which was both tonged and grooved and bolted together from the inside (short bolts that do not penetrate to the outside). Firstly ordinary rivets would not be strong enough and secondly a line of drilled holes through any armour would weaken it too much. This is the same for the belt armour.

What confuses this is the additional 1" plating which was bolted from the outside added to the roofs of many British ships after Jutland and the KGV class of WW2 which show bolts on the roofs. This sometimes shows up clearly in pictures and its assumed its a line of rivets.

Cheers

Geoff

petesubman · « **Reply #94 on:** October 05, 2016, 10:21:25 pm »

Thanks for info Geoff, didnt know that,regards pete

Geoff · « **Reply #95 on:** October 07, 2016, 01:58:02 pm »

Over the years I've been fortunate enough to actually go aboard some real Battleships. New Jersey, North Carolina and Texas. What struck me is that the armour is not that smooth, its more like a fine concrete finish and in places you can see the marks of the original wooden mould! There are visible imperfections in the surface of the armour. It all looks like its been hewn from stone.

There also a very strange juxtaposition between the armour and the welded parts of the ship which are super smooth. The notched joints in the armour are very visible indeed.

Whilst I know how they made armour its still astonishing to see mementos of the lost art. Simplistically armour is a special grade of steel which is then sandwiched with another plate in a furnace with a layer of carbon in between and heated to white hot for a period of two to three weeks! The carbon is absorbed into the face and creates a very hard surface with a more ductile back. The whole being a homogeneous plate with a very hard outer layer but flexible enough not to shatter like glass when struck.

As an interesting aside a plate that can't be penetrated from the front can be penetrated from the back!

Its fun stuff

Cheers

Geoff

petesubman · « **Reply #96 on:** November 05, 2016, 10:01:02 am »

Finally got some paint on Borodino, the anthracite looks good also had an episode with her boiler ,thanks to spud for an exellent repair, regards Pete

ballastanksian · « **Reply #97 on:** November 05, 2016, 08:21:46 pm »

Are those hawse hole covers Pete? That is OCD waterproofing on the Russian's part!

I love the panel detailing, very nice.

timg · « **Reply #98 on:** November 05, 2016, 09:11:46 pm »

Hi Pete,

I like the new paint job (Your boiler was a similar colour

)

It really does make the detail stand out , keep going

Look forward to seeing it on the water again

Spud

petesubman · « **Reply #99 on:** November 05, 2016, 10:02:36 pm »

Have started preparing the ships boats and cranes also fitted fine speaker grill mesh over the main vent openings for the boiler and then for no apperent reason fixed the rear mast in the wrong place ! Ooops, lpete

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