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[Unsinkable 2]

hello all. A question for all you Supersmoker owners, have any of you tried anything other than the Supersmoker oil in the unit with satisfying results?


I don't really use my Supersmoker to often but just thought I would get some more oil for when it runs out. Unfortunately it's from Australia and the postage on a small bottle is too much. But the cost plus postage on a big bottle is ridiculous.


Please let me know if you have tried an alternative!    U2

[Duncan PBR]

Hi there,
I use a liquid I get from Benedini,( Based in Germany). in my WW2 tanks. Or have also used diesel, so you get the smell, but can be a bit oily and clog up pipes a bit in cold weather.
Regards Duncan.
PS google Benedini for info

[radiojoe]

Hi U2, I have used the Seuthe  oil in my supersmokers and it works fine, I just happened to have half a small bottle, but to be honest it's just as expensive as getting the oil from OZ, a 250ml bottle of Seuthe oil from Gaugemaster is around £16, 300ml from OZ is around £22 with postage, so if you have to have the oil delivered from Gaugemaster I'd say the stuff from OZ is the better deal, and it has that lovely aroma of eucalyptus 

[Big Ada]

Maplins sell Fogging Liquid for Smoke effect.

[steamboatmodel]

I don't have a "super smoker", but if it is like the train style smoker (uses oil mixture) I use combination of baby oil and varsol (paint cleaner). Mixed 50/50 it worked well.
Regards,
Gerald.

[CGAux26]

I use plain old lamp oil in my smoker.  It smokes the same amount as the original, very pricey oil.  It's from Harbor Models in California (the smoker, that is).

[tigertiger]

You can also make your own from glycerine/glycerin and water. I am not sure if you can add colorants.
There is info online for this.

[Z750Jay]

The glycerine/glycol mix can have a colourant added to it. The manufacturers of ecigs do this to theirs - the black dye is expensive and once axle has to be vigorously shaken for several hours at 32'c to get it right, not just the old bung a food colour in the pot, give it a quick shake and bung it in the smoker

[Unsinkable 2]

Thanks guys for the mixed and interesting responses. I think I'll experiment a little and report back.  If all else fails I'll just buy some of the original expensive stuff.  

[Geoff]

As mentioned above, I would try some "fog fluid" which is not oil based. I did quite a lot of research on building smoke units and most are based on a hot wire vaporising "smoke oil" of some description. These were originally based on various oil concoctions but the problem is carbon deposits build up baking on to the element causing loss of performance and overheating and breakage. With any oil based product there is also the danger of overheating and a fire.


Other than the recent trend to use ultrasonic foggers (which use plain water) most if not all commercial units tend to use a "fog fluid" which is not oil based and therefore cannot catch fire. Its generally know as "smoke oil" hence the continuing confusion but its water and glycol based so is completely harmless although I wouldn't suggest you drink a pint of it! (Unless you want to spend extensive time in the small room of the house!). Fog fluid is readily available in Maplins in the UK about £20/£25 for 5 litres but sometimes they do 1 litre bottles for much less.


Cheers


Geoff

[Klunk]

Citronella oil used in garden lamps for anti mozzies!

[Nemo]

US2:  I quote from the Supersmoker V4 Ebay description - 'Our V4’s are simply designed to get the best smoke production from mineral base Smoke fluids'.
 
I use an SG1 smoker, also from Oz but a different supplier. It runs on mineral oil which is the same as baby oil. I get a 750ml bottle for about £1 from Boots! It churns out great smoke and lasts. Used with care, any 'fire-risk' is negligible, as I have used mine for many hours without problems.

I would not trust that fog smoke-liquid from Maplins for oil-type  smoke gennys like ours!

Try a small amount and if it works you will save yourself a packet and get great results - I hope. Please let us know how you get on with it..
Bob.

[steamboatmodel]

As mentioned above, I would try some "fog fluid" which is not oil based. I did quite a lot of research on building smoke units and most are based on a hot wire vaporising "smoke oil" of some description. These were originally based on various oil concoctions but the problem is carbon deposits build up baking on to the element causing loss of performance and overheating and breakage. With any oil based product there is also the danger of overheating and a fire.


Other than the recent trend to use ultrasonic foggers (which use plain water) most if not all commercial units tend to use a "fog fluid" which is not oil based and therefore cannot catch fire. Its generally know as "smoke oil" hence the continuing confusion but its water and glycol based so is completely harmless although I wouldn't suggest you drink a pint of it! (Unless you want to spend extensive time in the small room of the house!). Fog fluid is readily available in Maplins in the UK about £20/£25 for 5 litres but sometimes they do 1 litre bottles for much less.


Cheers


Geoff

"glycol based so is completely harmless "
I have to disagree strongly with the above, The following is from "The National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH)"
DESCRIPTION: Ethylene glycol is a useful industrial compound found in many consumer products, including automotive antifreeze, hydraulic brake fluids, some stamp pad inks, ballpoint pens, solvents, paints, plastics, films, and cosmetics; it also is used as a pharmaceutical vehicle. Ethylene glycol has a sweet taste and is often accidentally or intentionally ingested. Ethylene glycol is chemically broken down in the body into toxic compounds. It and its toxic byproducts first affect the central nervous system (CNS), then the heart, and finally the kidneys. Ingestion of sufficient amounts can be fatal. Ethylene glycol is odorless; odor does not provide any warning of inhalation exposure to hazardous concentrations.
We all have heard about dogs and cats being poisoned by antifreeze, it affects us too.
Regards,
Gerald.

[Pat Matthews]

Wrong glycol. Theatrical foggers use PROPYLENE glycol, which can be irritating with longer exposures, but certainly not poisonous.

Wikipedia has more info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fog_machine#Adverse_health_effects 
It's still in use, but seems to be falling out of favor.