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[ttony47]

Hello All
                  Super Glue ,has any one had an alergic reaction ,i only ask as since i started building a number of weeks ago ,i seem to have a countinous head cold that seems to go away and when i feel fit to resume building back it comes running nose itchy throat /ears .May just be my older age and a good old fashioned cold virus and takeing a long time to go, but just wondered if any one had similar experiance

[The Old Fart]

Yes, it is more common than people realise.

Recently realised that the cause of my headaches, stuffed up noise was due to the super glue. Also when drilling holes in wood, if wood starts to burn then odour also affects me.

Believe that super glue is available that does not have the unwanted side effects.

Where possible I glue outside, if not then I wear a face mask.

TOF
 

[BFSMP]

Hello All
                  Super Glue ,has any one had an alergic reaction ,i only ask as since i started building a number of weeks ago ,i seem to have a countinous head cold that seems to go away and when i feel fit to resume building back it comes running nose itchy throat /ears .May just be my older age and a good old fashioned cold virus and takeing a long time to go, but just wondered if any one had similar experiance

personal message sent.

[Colin Bishop]

Yes, that sort of allergic reaction to superglue (cyano) is very common I'm afraid. I have it myself. One whiff and then three days of acute hayfever symptoms. I don't think there is anything to be done about it, you just have to use alternative adhesives although you may well find you are OK if you use the odourless variety of superglue. It's not quite so effective as the mainstream types but it does work and I can tolerate it. Just very occasionally I will use cyano if absolutely necessary but only outside, using a mask and upwind!

For glueing wood to wood use an aliphatic glue or 'superphatic' which is the wood alternative to superglue with very quick grab. Both are water based.

For styrene/plasticard use one of the standard liquid plastic glues such as Plasweld.

For general purposes and sticking dissimilar materials I normally use five minute epoxy with a preference for the Devcon variety. This can be mixed in very small amounts and sets in a few minutes. Not as quick as superglue but I don't get any allergic effects from it. Some people are however allergic to epoxy if it gets on their skin. Another general purpose glue is UHU contact glue which comes in standard or power versions - the latter is better.

Other members will no doubt have more suggestions but it looks like standard superglue is not for you!

Colin

[Ron Rees]

Hi all,


Superglue is known to be an irritant which can manifest itself in different ways. My wife, now retired, worked in Forensics and they use Cyano-Acrylates (Superglues) to bring up some Latent marks on difficult surfaces, mostly in a sealed fume cupboard. Some materials we use in modelling, like string, cloth, balsa wood and so on will give off toxic white fumes when glued, particularly with runny superglue. Asthmatics can be badly affected by these.
I'm not troubled by it but several modeller friends of mine are, and dare not use standard superglues.  I have found that some of the Foam-Safe and/or Odourless types are better and my friends use these now. Star-Loc and similar companies, who also write on Mayhem can tell you more about the safer types.
I buy mine from Hobbyking (Super + Gold)  or whenever at the shows StarLock products. etc. All very good and well worth a try.


Your individual reaction could easily be as a result of this stuff, probably a stinking cold as well.


Ron.

[John W E]

hi I have an old computer fan which sometimes I wire up to the 12 volt battery when using superglue a lot; it directs the fumes away.   Nowadays I use odourless superglue quite a lot and I don't find much difference in bonding strength once it has set properly.

John

[CGAux26]

Just to show the opposite side of this, I use the Bob Smith Maxi-Cure CA glue on many boat building jobs.  In particular when applying balsa planking to a hull.  That means a lot of glue applied in a short period of time, with a lot of build up on my fingers.  I have never noticed any effect on my sinuses or health, and I don't use a mask or respirator.

[dreadnought72]

^ and you may find, in a few months or years, an intolerence to CA, a bit like the one epoxy/fibreglass users sometimes develop. Good for a while, then not.


Trust me on this!


Andy

[imsinking]

Also you need to consider that some super glues are NOT WATERPROOF , that can affect & limit choices .
Bill

[tigertiger]

If you do a search online, there are lots of forums saying the same thing, that CA is nasty stuff. Reactions to it are not so rare, and can be very strong.
Domestic used may only use a couple of drops every year. Modelers will use it a lot more and will be working over the gluing surface and breathing in the goodness; especially if they are pouring thin CA.

[Corposant]

My experience very similar - used super-glue with impunity for many years but got three episodes of 'flu-like symptoms in a row. Having never had two colds in a row, went to GP who said, "Two is not uncommon, three is unlucky". Then realized scenario, so now, if I need to use it, I decamp to the garden and use a fan. The faintest hint of the fumes is enough to trigger a reaction. 

Mike

[Brian60]

I hate the stuff. Being asthmatic it does affect me if I have to use much of it. Lets face it when gluing tiny bits to equally tiny bits, we tend to have our hands up close to our faces for better viewing, this is not good for me with CA glue, the fumes go directly to nasal passages!

So I tend to use everything available and only turn to ca glue as a last resort.

[ttony47]

Wow what. Response had these symptoms got five weeks now ,and every time a felt a little better went back to my boat during the day ,come late afternoon early evening bang back comes the stinking cold symptoms . So I'm giving building a miss till after the festivaties if i if I can manage it ,thing iseverytime i see the hull ican Ivan here it callllllling .


So merry Xmas every one

[Colin Bishop]

Just use something else rather than superglue then you won't get the symptoms. It isn't essential - just convenient and there are perfectly viable alternatives as suggested above.

Colin