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Deans Marine Helen
« on: March 30, 2021, 10:20:28 pm »
Hello All,


Not posted here for a long time as I've not done much to any of my various steam boat projects. Thought you might like to see this one I rebuilt and improved over the Christmas break. It uses what I believe to be a Deans Marine Helen hull, and is fitted with a Cheddar models Pintail. I've yet to try her on the water due to lockdown, but I'm expecting her to go well with the lovely sleek hull...




With the sleek hull, I just had to make up a mounting collar for a raked chimney too...



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Re: Deans Marine Helen
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2021, 10:23:39 pm »
Right... can anyone advise me as to how to upload photos to the post please?


They're too big to upload directly via attachments, so I signed up to the ModelBoatMayhemImages thing and uploaded via the green icon when writing the post, but I can't get them into the main body of text. The other forums that I use both now have direct upload to the post, just like Facebook. I must be missing something.
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Re: Deans Marine Helen
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2021, 10:31:22 pm »
Jim,


The use of a separate site to load pictures keeps me away from this forum. I can do it only by the direct import method. But if your photos are still too big, try to "export" the desired photos to a new folder; your software may allow you to select the size to be exported.   (use width of 1000-1500-- pixels?) Once they are exported you can select those from that folder and
direct import to your posting, but you cannot embed them into the text.


I bet other experts will give you better advice.


Carl
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Re: Deans Marine Helen
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2021, 10:43:12 pm »
Quote from: carlfmiller on March 30, 2021, 10:31:22 pm
Jim,


The use of a separate site to load pictures keeps me away from this forum. I can do it only by the direct import method. But if your photos are still too big, try to "export" the desired photos to a new folder; your software may allow you to select the size to be exported.   (use width of 1000-1500-- pixels?) Once they are exported you can select those from that folder and
direct import to your posting, but you cannot embed them into the text.


I bet other experts will give you better advice.


Carl


Thanks Carl, from memory it's also what has put me off of this forum in the past. I'm sure I started a thread about a Puffin engine rebuild, got halfway through, changed my camera and the photos were then to big to upload. Ease of use is where forums are loosing out to Facebook, sadly - a shame as a forum acts as a better repository for information. I'm also on the Mamod Forum and Garden Railway Forum - since Tapatalk have taken over from MyFreeForum they have added a direct upload.
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Re: Deans Marine Helen
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2021, 11:44:00 am »
If the photos are too large to upload directly it is easy to resize them. Irfanview is free and easy to use software that has a batch convert section that lets you specify the size and will convert a number of photos at the same time.

Jim
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Re: Deans Marine Helen
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2021, 11:31:59 am »
Finally managed to upload some photos. I uploaded them to another forum I am a member of then saved them which seemed to reduce the file size sufficiently.
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Re: Deans Marine Helen
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2021, 03:21:07 pm »
That's a very nice boat!
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Re: Deans Marine Helen
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2021, 07:44:09 pm »
Very nice, would like to see some pictures of her on the water  :-))
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Re: Deans Marine Helen
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2021, 11:43:46 pm »
Quote from: SteamboatPhil on December 08, 2021, 07:44:09 pm
Very nice, would like to see some pictures of her on the water  :-))


Actually putting them on the water after a rebuild is the bit I never get around to doing! 😂 Got a lovely spot to for a test tank though!
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Re: Deans Marine Helen
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2021, 12:24:03 am »
Steamy Jim, can you please provide more info about the boat sitting in the water tank?  I'd love to know more about that boat and its ancestry; for comparison purposes to our new Stormy 45 launch.


Thanks, Carl Miller
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Re: Deans Marine Helen
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2021, 01:40:25 am »
Quote from: carlfmiller on December 11, 2021, 12:24:03 am
Steamy Jim, can you please provide more info about the boat sitting in the water tank?  I'd love to know more about that boat and its ancestry; for comparison purposes to our new Stormy 45 launch.


Thanks, Carl Miller


Carl - it a Marten, Howes and Bayliss Opal. I'm not sure what the designation of the engine is but I'm told it provided inspiration for the Cheddar Gemini - there are certainly a lot of similarities.
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Re: Deans Marine Helen
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2021, 11:17:17 am »
The engine should be the Marten, Howes & Baylis PB2.
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Re: Deans Marine Helen
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2021, 02:15:53 am »
Thanks for the tip, a lovely boat I see on YouTube.


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Re: Deans Marine Helen
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2021, 03:56:36 pm »
Hello!
i am not sure that the engine in this launch is a PB , I do not see it very well.
But attached are 3 PB engines and the middle one is a PB 2 .
Can you confirm ?
The other 2 (left @ right) are also PB's but I never seen any for sale. I've read somewhere that they were PB studies. True ? I'd like to be sure.
Thanks.

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Re: Deans Marine Helen
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2021, 04:49:39 pm »
Quote from: KBIO on December 12, 2021, 03:56:36 pm
Hello!
i am not sure that the engine in this launch is a PB , I do not see it very well.
But attached are 3 PB engines and the middle one is a PB 2 .
Can you confirm ?
The other 2 (left @ right) are also PB's but I never seen any for sale. I've read somewhere that they were PB studies. True ? I'd like to be sure.
Thanks.

The engine on the right looks like a PB too. Not sure about the one on the left.
Could you post pictures with better light?
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Re: Deans Marine Helen
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2021, 06:44:59 pm »
Hello KNO!
I do not know the name of the right engine. I just know that it is a MHB.
photo 1 & 2
Photo 3 is a V oscillating:
Photo 4 is also an early oscillating.


The PB engine PB1 (one cylinder) and PB 2 (two cylinders) came in two versions.
Before 1994 the PB reverse was made though a friction 0'ring. Not very reliable as it was slippery with the oil and H20 smashing around.
After 1994 PB reverse was a Maudslay. The top of reverse for me as it can be adjusted (Full ahead & reverse)  while the engine is running one side or the other.
The Maudlasy reverse working as well with Stephenson. reverse or other.
I found all those information thru the literature but for my "Catalogue" . Nevertheless , I would appreciate any information you can supply to me concerning MHB history and engines.
Sameame with Martin Bayliss.
Regards.

PS:I apologize to SteamJim for spoiling his post.The best option is to open another post dedicated to this history and develop it. Thanks for your understanding !




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Re: Deans Marine Helen
« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2021, 04:25:03 pm »
Hello, thanks for the pictures of the MH&B inline twin.
The green v-twin above is a Hemmens.
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Re: Deans Marine Helen
« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2021, 11:13:08 pm »
Hi Calin ,
The "V"  twin engine is called a "York "  part of The York steam plant.


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Re: Deans Marine Helen
« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2021, 06:32:47 pm »
Thanks George!
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