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Is there an alternative to the P94?
« on: October 01, 2025, 01:51:20 pm »

Is there an alternative to the P94 mixer for a 3 prop situation or even a better one or is it still the one to chose? It's for a cruise ship/liner type vessel about 5ft long?
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Re: Is there an alternative to the P94?
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2025, 02:46:52 pm »

Is there an alternative to the P94 mixer for a 3 prop situation or even a better one or is it still the one to chose? It's for a cruise ship/liner type vessel about 5ft long?
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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005276264077.html
They stock them right down to tiny 5 amp versions, with full spec of each option in another sales listing.
The optional mix is is 50:50.
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Re: Is there an alternative to the P94?
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2025, 05:17:31 pm »

The link says they can't ship to the UK.
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Re: Is there an alternative to the P94?
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2025, 05:52:05 pm »

The link says that can't ship to the UK.
I removed the tracking cookie. Clicking on the my link opens the product page on the "leftmost" 1/12 connector option, currently out of stock (TRX plug).
Scroll to the right photo gallery with and tap/click on an opaque photo or use the "search this store" at https://www.aliexpress.com/store/3208008 for dual escs.
They ship to the UK in about a week with full tracking from shopping cart to delivery.
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Re: Is there an alternative to the P94?
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2025, 06:09:00 pm »

Thanks for the info. John Elsey had previously sent me a similar link.

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Re: Is there an alternative to the P94?
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2025, 02:41:18 am »

I suppose that it depends upon which radio system you are using and if you can up grade. Many of the current computer radios, FrSky, Futaba, ect, have the mixing capability to accomplish what you want to do.
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Re: Is there an alternative to the P94?
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2025, 12:17:56 pm »

The intention is, I suppose, normal in having the P and S screws mixed and the centre one separate. Archangel was a cross channel ferry from 1910 (See below) so steering/mooring in limited areas was a must. I've got to get a new radio anyway so I might check that option first and then the aliexpress version. It's the fineness of the mix I'm most concerned about.Thanks again for the help.
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Re: Is there an alternative to the P94?
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2025, 01:18:12 pm »

Can two 40 amp escs for £5.80, all inclusive, be bettered with anything else?
Think of the saving in weight, bulk, cabling and time wiring the electrics up.
As for mix ratio, try reducing throw on Tx rudder channel then compensate with a shorter tiller as you'd do with a V-tail unit. If it doesn't work you can set to tank/individual and mix at the Tx.

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Re: Is there an alternative to the P94?
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2025, 04:08:25 pm »

hi there, if you wish to stay with ACTion - there is another alternative - the P40e mixer.  This is a stand alone mixer - you would need to supply your own speed controllers to plug into.  Avoid the cheap speed controllers which have a brake built into them; if you have a look at the right up on them, you will see you are able to connect 3 speed controllers to this one as well.   It is an alternative, but it may be a bit more expensive.  At least you will be keeping it British, if that is what you may like to do.


Here is a link to it [size=78%]P40e Marine Motor Mixer ACTion Electronics®[/size]


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Re: Is there an alternative to the P94?
« Reply #9 on: Yesterday at 09:50:19 am »

Since I'm still at the frame stage there's no rush and with a 5ft model no worry about space. My only concern with the AliExpress route is previous experience of the setting accuracy/fineness of some similar esc units I've used in the past. That said, it's worth a punt, but not yet O0 Thanks John, I'd not noticed the 40e :-))
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Re: Is there an alternative to the P94?
« Reply #10 on: Yesterday at 10:51:58 am »

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My only concern with the AliExpress route is previous experience of the setting accuracy/fineness of some similar esc units I've used in the past.
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Similar?
Is that a reference an esc resembling one the attached photo?
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Re: Is there an alternative to the P94?
« Reply #11 on: Yesterday at 01:29:41 pm »

No, but then I've never used AliExpress, only probably a couple of dozen different mini/micro ESCs from various sources over the last 10 plus years from Amazon to e-Bay to Banggood to etc.,etc.,etc. for vessels from a 1/350 battleship, 1/144 and 1/72 corvettes, through a scratch built, twin jet-drive, China Cat (C14) gunboat and a French submarine from WW1, plus a couple of civilian 'pootlers' or 'speedies' etc.So, I'm not averse to trying anything, especially at that price BUT.............. O0
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Re: Is there an alternative to the P94?
« Reply #12 on: Yesterday at 02:22:45 pm »

Somewhere in a months old post I emphasised anything that I recommended will have been given thumbs up from people other than myself and extensively tested for weak design points. That was after asking other posters to be clear if suggestions were nothing more than internet search hits. So the dual 40, and 5 & 10 amp dual escs, totalling > one dozen, are escs that I have bought to use and I'm happy to recommend to others.

 In contrast, the one in the above photo, from an Ebay store is another dud. Everything similar to it had a minimum 20% throttle which made them only of use to me as on/off/reverse driving a pump. They are missing the low throttle  range that all in your list of smaller sized models would need.
 
   
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Re: Is there an alternative to the P94?
« Reply #13 on: Yesterday at 02:56:42 pm »

Please don't get me wrong Invisible. I'm not doubting your knowledge and your honest opinion of the AliExpress unit and, as I noted, I intend to try one when the time comes, simply because it would be stupid not to do so. I only suggested that I've had some mixed experience with the lack of fine control with some of the cheaper units, which frankly all look the same to me, and it is that which creates an element of doubt in my rather aged and non-electronically tutored mind.
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Re: Is there an alternative to the P94?
« Reply #14 on: Yesterday at 03:26:17 pm »

I didn't infer any negative tone towards me or my posts. What I did detect was the healthy distrust of low priced hobby gadgets from the Orient. Your build scale was not well served before 2020, in the sub £10 bracket.
It has all changed now with a near step change in quality of boat/vehicle escs since then.
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Re: Is there an alternative to the P94?
« Reply #15 on: Today at 08:09:07 am »

Greetings everyone,
       I have found this post fascinating although the understanding of the electric's is way above my pay grade ( it's about clockwork/rubber bands), I like the idea of 2 x 40a ESC's at that price and would like to ask could you use this ESC for tank steering on a Tug i.e. separate motor control Left stick Port motor-Right stick Starboard motor? Twin quality ESC's are getting quite pricey now hence my question. Thanks for looking.
              Kind Regards,
                       Pete. :-)) :-)) :-)) [size=78%] [/size]
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Re: Is there an alternative to the P94?
« Reply #16 on: Today at 10:13:57 am »

Instructions are via a pull-down  clickable link where the sale highlights description.
The photo gallery via the above link is out of date, showing bare pads that you had to provide your own switch, jumper or link. That's what I had to do on my earlier order with the last lot as per my photo. Pull out the jumper for mixed on my last 40s.
It's now £4.23 on the first order.
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