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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #25 on: December 28, 2007, 05:20:53 pm »

My brother had a cat called "cat". He would have been ashamed of going out at night and calling "tiddles" down the street.

This is exactly why I was planning to call it "dog".

Seeing as it was to be trained to gun dog standards, I'll have spent a lot of my time in fields and next to the river bank shouting for it, so calling it something like "rupert" or "fifi trixebell" was never going to cut it.

Have written a seething letter to the exec board, and copied in every corperate sponser I could find with links to them demanding loon is sacked and  visciously beaten with an ice cold spoon until dead.

I know I've kind of made light of it, but I'm pretty angry about the dog. Poor wretch spent the last months of it's life on the street, and then in a place where they didn't have the budget to get him fixed up properly. It could well have been the case that I'd have got him and he would have died anyway, but I like to think not.

As cross as I am, I now find myself in a quandry about what to do with regards to future re-homing. The centre is simply not cut out to look after fish, and as I'm the main home provider for fish, a lot would die if I stop taking them.

That bl**dy otter has been playing on my mind as well this afternoon, as the wretched woman said it wasn't eating. I don't know squat about otters to be honest, but I'm part thinking that I could do a better job than the shelter would.

Om the other hand, they are horrible creatures, and there is a chance they'll catch and kill the cats, and they'll definately be taking chunks out of me and Mrs Steve. hmmm... needs more thinking about.

I've recieved a couple of e-mails from people asking which shelter it is and where it is. Also that I should complain to the police or some form of animal rights group about the death of the dog.

I *have* thought about this, but the way I'm looking at it is that, apart from the manager, the centre is mostly staffed with good people, trying to do a good job. And they do re-home a lot of animals. I think that if there was bad publicity in public, rather than complaints in private, it may have a negative effect of less people taking animals off them all together. This is why I have approached the exec board and the corperate sponsers, as both groups may take action, but will also keep it quiet.

Thanks for confirming I'm not crazy.

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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #26 on: December 28, 2007, 05:29:01 pm »

Dog==Otter==Otter ===Dog  yeah I can see the similarity..NOT...at the end of the day it appears that you are an animal Lover, so would be unfair to stop taking any from them..and its a shame that "Dog" could not have spent its last weeks/months/years  in comfort and where it would have been  well kept..

Suggest you are going to call the Otter, "otty"..that should solve the problem of them offering it to you..
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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #27 on: December 28, 2007, 05:54:03 pm »

My dog will come to me no matter what he is called, his name is Jake but monster and oi! work just as well. He has never told me that he only wanted to be called Jake, and it upset him if I did not use his name.
I am worried now after work I will go home and only call him by his name that is unless he is sleeping on my bed or sofa then the little b!"£$%d will be called a lot of things but Jake ain't one of them ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #28 on: December 28, 2007, 06:05:59 pm »

In his discworld series, Terry Pratchett had a convention about naming camels which started in "Pyramids".  The theory was that any animal will consider its name to be whatever sounds are normally directed at it.  Thus all camels have names like "You B*stard" and "Evil Smelling S&d".
My cat learned to respond to "Food".
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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #29 on: December 28, 2007, 06:29:16 pm »

Hello,
 So what are we to make of  "Dog the Bounty Hunter ", who appears on the TV ???.
His name is "DOG" !!!.
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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #30 on: December 28, 2007, 06:34:08 pm »

Steve,
With our local rescue centre it got as far as letters to the Local Paper but the RSPCA wouldn't budge.
This has led to a drop in donations and an increase in the number of animals in their care, of which it has to be said they do a superb job.
But the only ones to suffer are the animals.

In your case as the Executive Committee chose to back their manager it taints the whole organisation.
This leaves you in somewhat of a quandary, if you withdraw from temp. homing the animals, it is only the animals that suffer.
Is there not another sanctuary nearby that you can offer your services to.
Round here there are lots.
If not can you turn your back on something that you obviously believe in which will only harm the defenceless animals.
She and the Executive Committee should all go round being called PRATT or something stronger.
If you carry on with that centre would it be seen as you condoning this stupid behaviour?
I am glad it isn't my problem to solve!!

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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #31 on: December 28, 2007, 07:17:04 pm »

As the chinese say (and I got this from my mother)
A Dog is not just for Christmas - there's always some left over for Boxing Day!

But I do suggest that the woman needs putting in a cage and asking if she'd rather live (and die) in the cage or be callled something she didn't understand
The Chinese didn't call a dog Chow for no reason. (No offence intended!)
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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #32 on: December 28, 2007, 07:37:09 pm »

Hi RipSlider,

A few years ago my wife and I had a similar experience with a jobsworth at a rescue centre, she wanted us to build an 8ft wall all round our garden!!

Needless to say we no longer have anything to do with that particular rescue centre.

We now share our lives with our Lab. His full name is Montgomery Regal Star, his home name is Monty but like most dogs he will answer to almost anything...For the manager at "your" rescue centre.....ITS ALL IN THE TONE STUPID!!!!

I share your sadness at the fate of the dog you describe and your anger at the Manager.

Perhaps she likes whelks; she certainly seems to have the I.Q. of one.

Very sad

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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #33 on: December 28, 2007, 07:43:45 pm »

When I want my mothers dog to come to me I usually shout "Oi, Stupid, come here!" and she invariably does.  

I find myself now a bit concerned that if she reads this she may report me for mental abuse and bring some sort of action against me.  I have to admit I am probably on thin ice as regards canine rights goes as I have been known to chastise her on numerous occasions calling into question her mental capacity.  Well I mean to say if any of your dogs had chewed the beard of a "Winnie the Pooh Santa" you're not exactly going to call it "Bright" are you?  Then there was the time she thought a rock was a rabbit and hit it at full belt removing one of her canine teeth and very nearly most of her jaw.  I have to admit to questioning her eyesight after that one and for some time referred to her as "Oi, Ratter"

I'm worried though that all the times I have taken her out in the pouring rain for her last lamp post sniff or all the words of encouragement I have given her when she falls over when cocking her leg up (she thinks she's a dog but I haven't mentioned it to her for fear of causing her any anxiety attacks) may not be taken into consideration when weighing up the final verdict.  Maybe I should give myself up now and claim extenuating circumstances such as a deprived childhood, taking second place in the food chain to an aggressive poodle.

There again maybe I should simply draw some comfort from the fact that when I return from my travels she bounces all over me and still spends most of her time trying to persuade me to either play with her or stroke her stomach.

Maybe she does love me after all O0

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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #34 on: December 28, 2007, 11:25:54 pm »

I think you should take the Otter, call it 'dog', teach it to hunt and fish and release it to live it's natural life. Then go tell the idiot what you did just for a laugh! I can hear the gasp now!  ;D
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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #35 on: December 29, 2007, 11:49:07 am »

Hi Jaydee, I think you will find "Dog" s real name is Dwayne which is a good reason to call youself Dog, can you imagine him turning up at a dangerous criminals house and shouting "my name is Dwayne come with me, your nicked"............. at least the crim's will be incapacitated, they will die laughing {-) {-) {-)

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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #36 on: December 29, 2007, 04:16:21 pm »

BE EVEN WORSE IF HIS NAME WAS "DWAYNE DIBLEY "..........Devotes of red dwarfwill get that one  {-) {-) {-)
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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #37 on: December 29, 2007, 09:14:45 pm »

If you decide to take on the otter, I suggest you call him KETTLE {-) {-) {-) that should really get their goat >>:-( >>:-(.

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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #38 on: December 29, 2007, 09:25:10 pm »

If you decide to take on the otter, I suggest you call him KETTLE


.. or WATER...

Shall i get my coat?...
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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #39 on: December 29, 2007, 09:26:29 pm »

All otters are called Tarka.  ;)
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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #40 on: December 29, 2007, 09:50:02 pm »

Just trying to think of a suitable name for the goat.

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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #41 on: December 29, 2007, 11:27:56 pm »

Just trying to think of a suitable name for the goat.

Colin H.

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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #42 on: January 03, 2008, 11:55:37 am »

Oi Bunkerbarge, less of the flippancy, my Border Collie is named Billy! (named after Billy Connelly, "the big yin", as he was by far the largest pup in the litter!)

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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #43 on: January 03, 2008, 12:52:19 pm »

Nothing wrong with calling a dog 'Dog'. In fact my brother is called 'Dog'. His real name is david, but he's always been known as 'Dog' and doesn't care. BTW, he is happily married and not a wanderer.....

I tried to get a cat via an animal rescue once. The woman in charge said I would need a home visit. The visit duly happened with a small blob of a woman in glasses-on-a-cvhain, hat and clipboard [plus tweedy clothes arrived. She looked around, said nothing. Then said I would hear from them. I ddin't get it because a) I am renting b) my garden is not cat proof and c) I am at work full time on and d) I am single........

Two years ago one of the community nurses I worked with rescued a cat that its owner was ill treating. Being the social worker I am, it ended up with me. It stayed over a year until some b**stard ran him over. I was called at work by a lady who witnessed the accident who told me the car driver had plenty of time to stop as you could clearly see the cat was crossing - but didn't. he simply ran over him and carried on going. The lady had covered him and placed him in my garden (there are some lovely people out there) and I took the day off to bury him in the garden under his favourite tree. During his lifetime with me he was well behaved, loved more than he ever had been.

I am still looking for a cat - but I know one thing. I will never go via an animal rescue place again. Those of us who love animals can offer them a good home, food and warmth but that, it seems, is not enough. What do they want? Blood?

The world has gone mad!

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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #44 on: January 03, 2008, 01:22:09 pm »

man this made for infuriating reading.

people like said "WOMAN" just shouldn't get these jobs.
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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #45 on: January 03, 2008, 01:40:49 pm »

Sadly we live in a world where everything is done by numbers.  It doesn't matter that the numbers are meaningless.  It just means that there is an "agreed procedure" that covers the backs of anybody in the process.  Again, the fact that it impossible to convert affection into a number has no meaning to the mindless cretins who think that this is possible.  As someone wisely said a while ago about the PC brigade, "they work on the erroneous premise that it is possible to pick up a 'xxxxx' by the clean end".  I hope the word nanny didn't muck that up too much.
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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #46 on: January 03, 2008, 02:03:53 pm »

A principle called CMA

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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #47 on: January 05, 2008, 07:35:41 pm »

OK,

Installment two:

Cat 2 was killed on new years eve, which is a huge shame, as the reason I brought this house was specifically becuase of the 1,000 acres of fields directly behind it and the ultra-quiet, 10-cars-a-day road in front of it, but it still managed to get run over.

Cat 1 ( btw, their names are/were Cat and Cat, but have numbers when need to be distingushed ) is getting very sad as is a social sort of girl, so with trepidation we go back to the animal shelter.

Of cats we have have a bountiful choice, and it looks like we will soon be the new owners of a three legged cat who is currently named "hop-along", which frankly is far worse than calling a dog "dog" in my opinion. Very poor form.

Also go and have a look at this otter. It's about as skinny as a whippet, and is barely eating. However, this may because they have got it in a rabbit hutch sleeping on straw, and it has no access to water apart from one of those drip feeders that you give to rabbits. SWMBO did a bit of snivelling, and so it looks like an otter is coming to stay at the house for a while. (seriously --- someone brings an otter in to you. Surely you think to yourself "Hmmm... otters... probably could do with a big bowl of water to have a frolic in". However, this does not seem to have been a thought that has passed through the minds of ANY of the animal shelter staff...)


Now, this thing is NASTY, on account of it being an otter and a grumpy, starving one at that. So sunday see's me off to B+Q to buy wood and mesh to make an enclosure for it in the garden. Supposedly it's house trained but it'll kill the cat as soon as look at it.

God damn animals costing me a fluffing fortune! It's not even as thought I get to stroke the wretched thing. Have ordered a chain mail glove off the internet in case I have to go near it. Was tempted by an entire suit of armour, but the fluffing thing is costing me enough as it is...

Anywho, this is not the annoying part.

Around the base of a tree stump, the staff have made a globe type shape of wire mesh. On having a peer into said globe, I see that there is a male blackbird with a horribly broken wing with blood coming out of it. "Hmm..." thinks I "Must be waiting to see the vet". However, on asking about it, the bird has been there 2 weeks!!

So I ask why it hasn't been fixed. Answer is "You can't fix birds wings, so all you can do is feed them and leave them captive until they die. This I am told comes from the resident vet, not, as I suspected, the resident loony of a manager.

This isn't actually true at all, it's pretty simple to fix a bird with a broken wing. I explain this to the lady at the desk. We get into a bit of a "is", "isn't", "IS!", "ISN'T!!" type of argument.

Finally, vet is contacted on phone. I explain that the bird needs it's wing fixed, and that it is easy. Am told "Yes, it is easy, but it's hassle, so we leave it" "Why" i ask "Because we only really bother with cats and dogs"     >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Lets put this into perspective. This is a person who has made the choice to give up 8 years of his life at Uni learning how to cure animals. He gives up his time, for free, to deal with sick animals at the shelter. His practice gives the shelter the medications at cost price, becuase he cares about the animals. However, he can't be fluffed to deal with "Only a bird"  becuase "It's hassle" Seriously, there is something very wrong with this picture. I just don't get it at all.

This, as you can understand, caused me to start shouting. Bad words were said, some of which may have upset young children. Certainly the 3 year old kid with it's parents was cowering behind his Ma's knee when I'd finished, and his Ma was looking pretty distressed as well.

Up shot of situation is that I'm now also going to take charge of a male blackbird. In two weeks it will be set free flying as good as new. I will feed the otter and then take it to the otter sanctuary in Wales when it is fit again ( or shoot it, if it goes for my throat, and looking at it, it does have a touch of the vampire about it). I will re-home the cat.

From them on, I am having nothing more to do with this place. Not, I must make it clear, because it makes me incredibly angry, although it does, unbelievely so. Rather, becuase every time I deal with these people I feel like I'm entering a different dimension where the rules of common sense seem to be turned 180 degrees. I come out of that place feeling like the world has gone wrong and that some form of strange "stupidity dust" has got under my skin and my infect me.

Will post a picture of evil otter when it is behind 8 layers of wire mesh with addded mines and guard towers to stop it escaping and also a picture of a blackbird in a gimp suit having it's wing fixed in the next week or so.

In summing up
Animals: expensive, cause people to act stupidly, poo a lot.

Question: Worth it? I'm beginning to think not

Steve

p.s. if you can think of an alternative to fish to feed an incredibly aggressive otter that won't eat fish, please shout out. I am considering buying a few live moutain lions for it to hunt and mutilate....




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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #48 on: January 05, 2008, 09:14:40 pm »

lord thats a crying shame.  Why the discrimination against birds?  Doesn't the sanctuary have ANIMAL written in big letters on the sign?
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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #49 on: January 05, 2008, 09:16:37 pm »

Possibly, but not BIRDS, REPTILES, HUMANS etc.

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