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Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« on: December 28, 2007, 01:10:41 am »

OK, so some people thought that I was joking when I told you about Mrs Steve's bouncing cake ( I wasn't) , but to me it was just one of those crazy things that seems to happen to me a lot more than other people.

To prove this, let me compare a random chap off the street getting a dog to my own efforts to obtain one. This has actually happened and is all true. Either God puts idiocy in my way on purpose, of all the people I deal with are totally sane, and I'm the crazy one.

Normal chap getting a dog.
Walks into dogs home -> "Hello, please can I have a dog?" -> selects dog from those available -> home visit -> recieves dog.

See, it's easy isn't it. Sadly not for me.

Myself and Mrs Steve have wanted a dog for a while now. With a new, bigger house and lots of fields etc, and me working from home a lot more, we decided in early december that the time was right to go and get one, so we toddled off the a local dogs home in order to get a mutt.

A note here. I won't name the animal shelter, but it's in the Yor/Leeds area, and this place friggin *loves* me, as not only have I already got two cats from them, but I take in all the unwanted "oddities" that people dump on them, which mostly involves fish ( as I have a lot of fish tanks ) but also the odd rat, hamster, gerbil, ferret etc. For a while the old house was turning into a zoo in front of my eyes and my two cats were going spare either trying to eat or run away from the latest arrival. Now a days I just keep the fish, and re-home through friends the other animals.

Surfice to say, these people know me, I know them, and, seeing as someone usually drops a new match of fish around every week or 10 days, know the cats have a good home. So no house visit for me, as they already know a dog will be OK.

So, we arrive at the dogs home, and go for a trundle around the dogs. I see something in the corner which looks a little like a road accident on LSD, but actually turns out to be the ugliest dog you've ever seen. Bald spots every where, so skinny you can see every bone in his rib cage, and obviously very badly beaten up and scarred (although without a doubt this was a damn ugly dog to start off with).

Anyway, for some reason I'm taken with him, so me and Mrs Steve take him for a walk. no matter what he looks like, he's an excellently trained dog and by the time we take him back, we decide to take him.

So, we go to the front desk and ask about the dog. Turns out he needs a whole load of the vets time and meds in order to get properly healthy, and the amimal centre can't afford all the bills so have paid to get him stable, and the new owners will need to get him properly well. Add the ugliness to this, and no one wants him, and he's been there a horribly long time.

So, we say we'll take him, agree to cover vets bills etc. Woman at the desk is ecstatic, and runs off to get manager of the shelter. This causes a groan from me, as I'm not a fan of said woman. I swear, with my hand on my heart, that this is the most crazy, stupid woman you have ever met. This is a woman who is that dumb she could sit on the ground and manage to fall off.

So, out comes the loon, giving it the whole tears, snot and limp hugs routine, telling me what wonderful people Claire and I are, and that the dog is amazing lucky. I just nod and hope to christ she goes away, but she decides that she herself is going to do the paperwork for this dog.

All seems to be going as well as it can be with the paperwork, given who is filling it out ( apart from when she left the cap one the pen when she tried to write, and couldn't work out what was up until mrs Steve pointed the cap out to her...) until we get to the bit about the dogs name.

The current name of the dog is something dreadful like "Tango" or "Turner", or at least something equally as revolting beginning with a T. So she asks us

"Are you planning to change it's name, and if so, what to"

"Why yes" replies I "I *will* be changing it's name, we're going to call it "Dog"

"ha ha" says loon "What are you actually going to call it?"
"no really, it'll be called "Dog" " says me

This meets with much opposition. It turns out that, for some reason, it is cruel to call a dog "Dog".

"Why"  I ask "Does the dog care what it's called by humans? I don't understand why this is an issue"

After much muttering, confering wih her juniors etc, she explains that it is demeaning to call a dog "Dog", and so they won't let the dog come home with us.

Cue snot and tears from Mrs Steve. I try to explain that I will pay all the vets bills, that the centre knows it's going to an excellent home, that they can't afford to get the poor swine better, and, most importantly, the dog truely won't care what it's name is, but still we're not allowed the dog.

In desperation, I say that I'll keep it's old name. Now the woman won't believe me, and STILL won't let us have the dog.

At this point, I decide to leave, but to appeal to the national group that runs the shelter. I write to them, explain the full situation with out bias, and ask them to interceed.

This morning I got a phone call. The issue had gone all the way to the exec board. They have decided too that calling the dog "Dog" would be degrading to the dog, which would harm it in ways unspecified, and that I can not adopt it. Along with this, they have said that becuase they do not believe that I will keep the name of any other dog I adopt, they "respectfully request" that I do not try and adopt any dog from any of their shelters.


At this point I am fully convinced that the world has gone mad.


Two hours later, I get a phone call from the same crazy manager lady from the animal shelter where all these issues started.

Some one has brought in a tame otter, and they can't get it re-homed until feburary. Please could I take it?

After establishing that she *was* actually talking about an otter, rather than, for example, a hamster, becuase lets face it she's not very bright, and I have never heard of a tame otter, I ask her why doesn't she take it to the river and release it. She explains that it was some ones pet ( who makes a pet out of a friggin otter??? They make polecats look tame and gentle!!)  and doesn't know how to hunt. Oh, and do I know what food someone would feed a pet otter as it doesn't seem to be eating fish....

I ask her if she knows what has happened about the dog? She says yes, the exec council told her yesterday. I ask her how the dog is. She says it died a few days ago due to liver complications ( the same thing that the centre couldn't afford to treat, but I was willing to cover costs for...). I ask her if, given the situation and the news she's just given me, she thinks it's good form to ask me to take on animals from them at the moment?

Here quote, word for word:

"Well, otters are *sort* of like dogs... aren't they?"

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Question to the board, and be honest here:

Is it me who is stupid for not understanding that calling a dog "Dog" is degrading, or is it the animal centre who are full of madmen???

Seriously folks, what am I missing here???

Steve

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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2007, 02:01:43 am »

Hi Steve,

Good init.

I had a tropical fish the make of which was an oscar. I called him Oscar and he never complained.

Bob.

sad about the dog though.
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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2007, 03:12:52 am »

i use to call my shark, sharkie... animal people  are nuts.....


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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2007, 08:20:06 am »

Beaurocracy is nuts nowadays and there are too many idiots striving to be as politically correct as possible so much that they have lost all concept of common sense.

As far as I am concerned that woman has killed the dog and I would discus the situation with the RSPCA to see if they think she is fit for the job.

To object to calling an animal by a certain name is mindless in the extreem and is assuming that animals can understand language, which they obviously cannot.  They simply respond to a known noise in a conditioned manner.

You should have said that you had reason to believe that it was a French dog and therefore it would only be demeaning if you called it "Chien".

The lunatics are certainly taking over the assylum here and everywhere else these days.
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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2007, 08:21:05 am »

Not you Ripslider, The damned woman wants sacking at the very least.....Have you thought of applying for her job??

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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2007, 08:45:22 am »

We were walking in Italy this year, starting from a very remote village. Just outside the village we were joined by a little village dog, we expected him to leave us after a mile or so, but he stuck with us, by five miles we felt responsible for the little fellow, whenever we lost sight of him, we just shouted 'dog dog ' and he would appear
He shared our lunch, drank a little water, and finally left us when we got back to the village, I suppose he had been with us for about 10 -12 miles, and seemed perfectly happy with his new name. I have no idea what 'dog dog' is in Italian, perhaps he didn't either.
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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2007, 09:04:09 am »

Now if you had called it "Cane!, Cane!" the dog may have found it demeaning and been offended.

This is actually all too stupid to talk about.  The woman is an imbecile who has just been responsible for the death of a dog and she should be held accountable for it.
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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2007, 09:05:52 am »

We too went to get a dog from a very well known national animal shelter.
We didn't think there would be a problem as we had our last dog from them.
As I was working from home and there is my wife and 3 offspring, there is usually someone at home.
When I told them I had to be away overnight about 2 nights a week they refused us a dog.
It seems now I had to be at home 24/7.
Why only me, the rest of the family were home.
We did however notice an increase in the number of dogs in the centre.
I had a bit of a row, but they stuck to their new rules.
Do we have a dog now, of course we do.
My wife saw an advert in the free ads so we went and bought a Rottie.
The softest, daftest dog we have ever had.
We too will never go back there, the only ones who suffer are the dogs of course, they pay with their lives.
What these idiots are saying is yes you can have a rescue dog from us if you:
Never go shopping,
Don't work,
Don't have a day out
We have almost always had a dog in the house, my wife feels safer with a mutt when I am away.
Just seems daft to me, we didn't take it any further, just walked away.

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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2007, 09:36:58 am »

hi ya there Steve, hope you had a good Christmas - my wife has just read your posting about little 'Dog' and she wants to know if you are an Aries????  Because like you - love animals - she would love to know who that Rescue centre was....dear me....the world has gone mad!!!!     I called one of our cats s**thead for long enough and my son, Andrew,  called ithe cat ginger rat - but it never damaged the cat's brain! It didnt stop him damaging the wallpaper (the cat that is {-) )and the house is still full of battle scars from him - mind, having said that we miss him as he is not here now!  But, back to that animal shelter - you should have called that woman - WOMAN !!!!!!!!!!!

Nice to know someone loves pets as much as us - and hates PEOPLE as much as us.

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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2007, 09:41:40 am »

I have read this story 3 times now and still can't believe it!!!!!! We have a dog we got from someone who could no longer care for her properly so she never got as far as the animal shelter, her name is Lottie, now is that degrading all the poor saps who are addicted to the national lottery (after all star trek fans are called trekkies!!! :D {-)) We could have called her b1tch as it is the proper term for a female dog, but i think we might have got a few strange looks calling her!!!!!

It is however alright for "celeb's" to call their kids peaches, heavenly hirani tiger lilly???, brooklyn, cruz, fifi trixibell and i could go on, why are the parents of said children not prosecuted for causing unneccesary suffering I can imagine the mickey taking they must get at school, kids can be so cruel!!!!

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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2007, 10:30:48 am »

Mark,
The world has finally gone mad.
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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2007, 10:49:02 am »

Steve

Its official the world has gone PC mad. In my mind the dog having a good home out weighs what he is called, and how do they know it would effect the dog? Dogs will do anything for you all it takes is love, attention and food, not always in that order

Like bunkerbarge I think the woman killed the dog

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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2007, 10:51:44 am »

MY gold fish is called MR fish please don't tell that scary woman from the dogs home as i don't want him to go. I would say she is as thick as 2 short planks of wood But that might be offencive to 2 short planks of wood and might hurt the wood, thats of course forgeting in PC world wood has feelings and can talk English. Yep your right the world is now run by the people of the NUT HOME. ps what is now a PC name for a dog
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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2007, 11:02:28 am »

We now have to ask the canine (the word dog no longer allowed!!) what he or she wants to be called so here is a list of approved names:
Snarl
Woof
Bark
Growl
Whimper
Whine
Howl
Pant
 {-) {-) {-) {-)
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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2007, 11:07:41 am »

Mark sound about right
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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2007, 11:19:06 am »

As the chinese say (and I got this from my mother)
A Dog is not just for Christmas - there's always some left over for Boxing Day!

But I do suggest that the woman needs putting in a cage and asking if she'd rather live (and die) in the cage or be callled something she didn't understand
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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2007, 11:34:16 am »

Well my family have had lots of animals all with stupid names and they all lived to a ripe old age and as far as i am aware none suffered any ill effects.. Here are just a few.

Cat = Pussy Pur   (liked to go for walks in Delemere Forrest)
Cat = Pussy Pie   (Fat black Tom)
Cat = Stinky       (loyal to the end)
Cat = Diddles  
Cockatoo  = Cocky ( 50+ when he fell off the perch no one seemed to know his real age)
Horse  = Missala   (before Indian Restaurants were well known)  
5*Tortoises , Pedeta & Pedra , (can not remember the other 3 names but were on the same lines )

Must admit calling a Dog "Dog" does not quite go, perhaps Doggy might have been better.. Personally I would have sent your write up to the paper as it would give everybody a good laugh , especially as you seem to be used as an overflow for the centre.

Would be intersting to know if you would be allowed to have a cat on a very large leash , as we used to do as they had a habit of sitting in the middle of the road..Both Pie & Pur lived to about 15 which is a very good age ..Unlike are opposite neighbours who seem to loose about 2 a year .. Which would be considered cruel I wonder..
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Mark you forgot  "Killer"  I new somebody with a Dachshund called this..
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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2007, 03:01:10 pm »

As an animal lover I no longer donate or give of my time to the RSPCA as they all seem to have gone loopy round here.

Talking of dogs names did anyone see the program on TV a few years ago about a chap who looked after a pack of hounds.

His party trick was to get visitors to point out a dog of their choice a few seconds later he would call `dog` and that particular one would come to him and all the others just carried on doing what dogs do.

No matter which dog was pointed out it never failed. It turns out that all the dogs used to look at him every couple of minutes for guidance and when the dog he wanted did this he would just call `dog` and over it came.

As far as I know not one dog or other animal was hurt, degraded or anything else during the making of the documentary.

I do find it very sad that people like the loopy women can be in charge of defenceless animals.

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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2007, 03:42:46 pm »

I call my Lab 'Dogger' amongst other things, none of which are her registered name and she is still as nuts as she was as a pup - so - guess the dogs dont care!
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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2007, 03:53:49 pm »

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I do find it very sad that people like the loopy women can be in charge of defenceless animals.

I think this is a case of someone intellectually challenged and prone to anthropomorphic sentimentalism. (A bit thick and assigns human characteristics to animals)

The solution is to take her to the North Pole and introduce her to a lovable, cuddly polar bear called Snowy.
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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2007, 03:59:33 pm »

Quote from: Horse  = Missala   (before Indian Restaurants were well known)  [/quote

All these years later , just found out the horse was named after someone in Ben-Hur..
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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #21 on: December 28, 2007, 04:07:38 pm »

I thought it was Messala  ::)
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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #22 on: December 28, 2007, 04:12:57 pm »

It was Colin  , I have just been spelling it incorrectly since 1976 , Oh well.. O0 (passed away to the great glue factory in the sky 1977)
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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #23 on: December 28, 2007, 04:25:20 pm »

My brother had a cat called "cat". He would have been ashamed of going out at night and calling "tiddles" down the street.
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Re: Banned: Calling a dog "Dog"
« Reply #24 on: December 28, 2007, 04:35:53 pm »

Perhaps she should go to San Francisco Zoo and practice her animal/people skills on the tigers?
http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/news/latest-world-news/2007/12/26/escaped-tiger-kills-zoo-visitor-91466-20287023/
The left-overs could be entered for the Darwin award. (Survival of the fittest, too stupid to survive dempnstration section)
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