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[Dave Leishman]

Hi guys.

I've had an email from a modeller that was sold the hull pictured below as a supply tug. I agree with him that the superstructure is 'a red herring', but the hull doesn't look like any tug I'm familiar with, and certainly not a supply tug! The chap contacted me as he thought it may be a fishing boat, and I have to admit it does kinda look like a fishing boat hull...except for the portholes (which may also be a red herring!).

Any ideas?

[ron h]

It was some type of Motor Yacht, its at least 20 years old, can not remember who manufactured the hull, I remember one of the lads in the Runcorn club buying one.

[Stavros]

Wasn't that on EBay last week

[cbr900]

Has to be an older type of fishing boat going by the looks of it, I think the portholes have been added to change the appearence,,


Roy

[Tom@Crewe]

Kingstone mouldings have this hull a German Armed Trawler

[Dave Leishman]

Tom - That definitely looks like the same shape. I'll direct the guy that sent me the email to this forum post.

Thanks for all the replies guys - mucho appreciated :)

[ron h]

Tom - That definitely looks like the same shape. I'll direct the guy that sent me the email to this forum post.

Thanks for all the replies guys - mucho appreciated :)

If you look at the hull closely, you will see the first hull has a very round stern , were as the second has a square stern , very much like it,

[ron h]

If I can remember right ,it was a twin masted motor yacht, look at the metal work on the bow, its to large to be on an arm trawler, I never did like the shape of the hull, to much sheer, never looked right on the water.

[Dave Leishman]

Ron,

The stern difference did occur to me but I figured the bad angle of the first pic and the fact that it's black may have accounted for it. You may be right with your motor yacht - it's hard to tell from the photos.
I've emailed the chap that mailed me (Robb) and directed him to this post (and plugged the Mayhem forums, naturally!), so maybe he will be able to tell us :)

[ron h]

After a mornings search I found it in MODEL BOATS APRIL 1991

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[ron h]

Also there looks as though 2 sections are missing, aft deck and mast. ::) ::)

[Dave Leishman]

Ron,

I think you've definitely identified it through your diligent detective work

As you say, the aft deck and mast are missing, but they shouldn't be too hard to make.

I've mailed Robb and have linked to this forum topic, so hopefully he'll see it.

Thanks Ron :)

[ron h]

Ron,

I think you've definitely identified it through your diligent detective work

As you say, the aft deck and mast are missing, but they shouldn't be too hard to make.

I've mailed Robb and have linked to this forum topic, so hopefully he'll see it.

Thanks Ron :)

Your welcome, the brain seems to be still working.

[White Ensign]

Gentlemen, it can not be one of the armoured trawlers which had been in service in WW2, as the shape of the hull does not match to any type. I guess that the modeler who has made this boat converted it to that- but I am sure it wasn`t meant for that. By it`s shape it looks much more like a trawler of the 60`s, 70`s.
Hope this was out of any help.

J?rg

[Guy Bagley]

i am pretty much sure it is the baltic boat form ivor broughtons boats and models, ( sadly no longer around) - i understand dave metcalfe now has these mould tools ????

 i also owned 2 of the fishing boats  boats from  boats  and models- great vessels.....

[Daryl]

Hi Guy,
Is the hull listed amoungst DM's hulls? I wonder what state the mould is in?

Daryl

[Daryl]

Just looked on Metcalf Mouldings site and it look like it is listed under 'new releases' 'Boats and Models'. the blurb goes on to say that the moulds have seen better days and after re-working a tug kit it was found to be cost prohibitive to re-work the rest. It goes on to say that a lot of work needs to be done to clean up the parts and it s more expensive to produce a kit of badly formed parts than a kit of perfectly formed parts!!!!!

He calls it Incholm 76

Daryl

[GOGSAMWE]

Just looked on Metcalf Mouldings . It goes on to say that a lot of work needs to be done to clean up the parts and it s more expensive to produce a kit of badly formed parts than a kit of perfectly formed parts!!!!!

Daryl

Novel quotation methinks ?

[Daryl]

Thats what I thought. Interesting marketing ploy.  Pay more for junk.

Daryl

[wombat]

It is a reasonable thing to say, to me. At work we use the 1:10:100 rule - if it costs ?1 to find a duff part at goods in, it costs ?10 to fix it at final test and ?100 once it has shipped to a customer.

A poor quality kit is going to result in more calls from customers for help, dodgy or missing bits replaced - this time is not free and the cost has to be factored in somewhere otherwise it comes straight off the bottom line - either on the overall cost of kits shipped or the cost of the dodgy kit has to upped.

The number of those kits shipped determines whether it is worth retooling to overcome the problems

Tim (the Wombat)

[cbr900]

Is ot reaaly that or are they just trying to dodge bullits..


Roy