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Re: TYPE 42 BUILD - HMS YORK
« Reply #50 on: February 15, 2009, 06:41:28 PM »

hi there Dan

Just to answer your question about the reason I prefer building in wood rather than plastic - I do work with plastic to a small degree - making fittings and various small superstructures from plasticard and plastic-strip (as you can see from the photographs which follow).   

However, when I am working with wood, I do feel more in control by being able to shape and manipulate the wood to my advantage.   I also find that working with wood - you do have a variety of wood materials to work with - because you can work with balsa, hardwoods, and plywoods etc. to achieve various finishes and also shapes.

When you are working with plastic though - that is it you are working with plastic - the only thing which varies are the thicknesses/ colours and also the bonding materials.   

You will find there are a lot more glues which will bond timbers successfully that will bond plastics.

I will admit that it is far easier to achieve a finish on plastics with less effort than you do with timber.

Anyway, here are a couple of photographs of the air intakes, these are situated at the stern of the bridge midships and these are made from some left over net-curtain - window nets now 2-3 inches shorter (dont tell me Mrs)  >>:-(  some plywood 1/16 thick and plasticard of various thicknesses.

See what you think.
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Re: TYPE 42 BUILD - HMS YORK
« Reply #51 on: February 15, 2009, 07:34:34 PM »

thanks blue bird, some fair point, ill have a go with timber next time because plastic is staring to annoy me a little.
the builds coming along nicely by the way
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Re: TYPE 42 BUILD - HMS YORK
« Reply #52 on: February 15, 2009, 11:51:14 PM »

Net curtains, now there is a great idea :-))
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Re: TYPE 42 BUILD - HMS YORK
« Reply #53 on: February 21, 2009, 05:56:59 PM »

hi there

Just a little progress report, I have been making the aft-superstructure which supports the funnel and also been making the funnel itself.

As you can see, the superstructure is made yet again, from plywood - 1:64 thick, which has been adequately supported with 1/4 Obechi strips in the corners; and along the edges where the roof is.

The next stage in the build is the actual manufacture of the funnel itself.   After taking various tracings from the plan view of the shape of the funnel, and transferring them to the plywood which I was going to use, I built up a framework out of the plywood.   The plywood was 1/16 thick and I braced the framework with 1/4 Obechi again, as can be seen in the photographs.

I then wrapped the whole funnel structure in 1:64 plywood.

This was then sanded and sealed; and then filled.   

I am now in the process of fitting the actual outlets on the top of the funnel and these are made from circles of balsa wood covered with plasticard; and after I have finished these, I have to fit the grilles which are situated around the front of the funnel.
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Re: TYPE 42 BUILD - HMS YORK
« Reply #54 on: March 05, 2009, 07:42:07 PM »

hi all

just a couple more pics of the build so far - as you will see I have completed the sub-structure of the helicopter hangar with some fittings attached at the rear - also done some work on the bridge and the Scott Dome platforms;
the materials used are 1:64 plywood with some 0.5 plasticard and some copper wire and bits and pieces.
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Re: TYPE 42 BUILD - HMS YORK
« Reply #55 on: March 14, 2009, 11:14:20 AM »

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Re: TYPE 42 BUILD - HMS YORK
« Reply #56 on: March 14, 2009, 05:35:08 PM »

Looking good John, dont waste all your time drinking tea then.

Test what exactly ? {:-{
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Re: TYPE 42 BUILD - HMS YORK
« Reply #57 on: March 14, 2009, 06:45:23 PM »

Hi ya there Dicky mate,

just testing out new PC  :-))  the only problem is that it has the Vista on it - but so far so good!   I have had to cofigure a lot of stuff, with resizing programmes - and the Mrs has done me a great favour - hey me Mrs has bought me a 26 inch monitor so I hardly have to move to check the Forum - I can see you having a cuppa too - hahah so watch what ya deeing.

Speak to you soon.

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ps have to get it right - so I can find that blinking ship.......trying to get all me favourites back etc., %) :-)) ;)
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Re: TYPE 42 BUILD - HMS YORK
« Reply #58 on: March 18, 2009, 11:04:00 AM »

HI BLUEBIRD  boatman here yours is a really nice build well done for building from the keel up now this is not critisium of your build but i just wondered why you hav'nt fitted the anntena levels on the funnel or are they still to build an fit just put a pic of my edinburghs funnel  on so you can see what i mean i also built york as well an she has them fitted also again this is not critisum
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Re: TYPE 42 BUILD - HMS YORK
« Reply #59 on: March 18, 2009, 02:19:47 PM »

Hi ya boatman 101

 

The reason I don’t add aerials and masts to the build whilst I am in the process of building; I find that I tend to catch them and knock them off – so therefore I tend to leave ‘sticky out’ items until near the finish of the build.

 

Also, if you notice I do not fasten structures down or glue them down = due to the fact that I find whilst working on the other parts of the superstructure it is easier to work on them if they are kept in small units

 

The other thing is, your comments are quite welcome, along with anyone else’s 


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Re: TYPE 42 BUILD - HMS YORK
« Reply #60 on: March 18, 2009, 02:39:03 PM »

THANKS bluebird for your answer an im the same i have made my edinburgh so that it all comes apart in case of any breakages as you say its easyier to work on small parts to repair  :-))
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Re: TYPE 42 BUILD - HMS YORK
« Reply #61 on: March 18, 2009, 02:52:13 PM »


a couple more pics of the build so far   ;)
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Re: TYPE 42 BUILD - HMS YORK
« Reply #62 on: March 18, 2009, 06:24:06 PM »

Nice John.

Funny place for a funnel though.  {:-{
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Re: TYPE 42 BUILD - HMS YORK
« Reply #63 on: March 18, 2009, 07:54:41 PM »

looking goog John  :-))

and welcome aboard Chris, why dont you post some of the pics of your builds on another thread?
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Re: TYPE 42 BUILD - HMS YORK
« Reply #64 on: March 18, 2009, 08:32:13 PM »

hi there Dan


thanks for the kind comments; but, I do feel as though I am getting nowhere at the min - doing the small fittings; and trying to find the right place for the funnel  %) ;) ;) and hey Welcome Aboard Chris, it would be nice to see some of your models and some of your builds.

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Re: TYPE 42 BUILD - HMS YORK
« Reply #65 on: March 18, 2009, 08:53:27 PM »

Great build John.She looks wonderful! :-)) Walter
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Re: TYPE 42 BUILD - HMS YORK
« Reply #66 on: March 18, 2009, 09:39:19 PM »

hi there Dan


thanks for the kind comments; but, I do feel as though I am getting nowhere at the min - doing the small fittings; and trying to find the right place for the funnel  %) ;) ;)

i know exactly how you feel, all i seem to be doing at the moment is sanding  {:-{
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Re: TYPE 42 BUILD - HMS YORK
« Reply #67 on: March 24, 2009, 10:50:24 PM »

just a couple more pics of the build so far
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Re: TYPE 42 BUILD - HMS YORK
« Reply #68 on: March 25, 2009, 03:26:40 PM »

just a couple more pics that did no go on last time

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Re: TYPE 42 BUILD - HMS YORK
« Reply #69 on: March 25, 2009, 06:06:07 PM »

Very nice John, see you found a place for the funnel then. ok2
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Re: TYPE 42 BUILD - HMS YORK
« Reply #70 on: March 25, 2009, 06:49:23 PM »

 :-)) Hi John you are doing a great job with the build I have really enjoyed reading and looking at the photos of the build I only hope my boat looks as good as yours  yes i have put photos of my build under Sir lancelot   well done and keep the good work going.   wallace
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Re: TYPE 42 BUILD - HMS YORK
« Reply #71 on: March 28, 2009, 08:21:55 AM »

 HI BLUBIRD boatman here just lookin at your pics an noticed on york 's  stern a flap whats this ? as i have built york an edinburgh an have never seen this before
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Re: TYPE 42 BUILD - HMS YORK
« Reply #72 on: March 28, 2009, 09:59:14 AM »

HI BLUBIRD boatman here just lookin at your pics an noticed on york 's  stern a flap whats this ? as i have built york an edinburgh an have never seen this before
                    chris

It is to give the ship an extra few knots of speed.
If you look at a T45 or an Arleigh burke they are fitted from the start but the T42's got them in a refit.
What it does is stop the the stern sinking into the water when the boats start to go faster.
Can't remember the proper name for them
But they are the new "in thing" for warship designs
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Re: TYPE 42 BUILD - HMS YORK
« Reply #73 on: March 28, 2009, 06:11:24 PM »

hi ya there Chris

As gingyer has stated; HMS York has literally just come out from a £17m refit from F.S.L. Co (Fleet Support Ltd).   Apart from upgrading the radar arrangements, the seadart missile launcher was upgraded as well.   What they have actually done to the seadart launcher system - I am unsure - as yet anyway.    I hope to receive some photographs so I can compare them.   

One of the more notable alterations to the vessel is the additional trimtab across the stern.

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Re: TYPE 42 BUILD - HMS YORK
« Reply #74 on: March 28, 2009, 08:33:49 PM »

Ahh - there's nothing like building in wood although I never seem to stop sanding.

Great job John. Keep up the good work - it's inspirational..

Now. if I can only figure out how to make this webcam work......

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