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Bryan Young

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Lights and other gizmos
« on: July 14, 2009, 11:40:34 PM »

I'm always a little intrigued by this apparent obsession with fitting lights and stuff. A radar scanner I can understand. But running lights on a ship in broad daylight? There is no earthly reason fo doing so. Apart form breaking the Law (as written down in the International Regs etc....) , why spoil a decent model by making it look like an attraction at a fairground? Unless you are sailing at night or in really murky conditions nav.lights are a no-no. Unless it is just an ego or ignorance thing ,of course. Interior lights are great. But having a ship lit up like a Xmas tree on a sunny day ....well, a bit "chav" really. BY.
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Re: Lights and other gizmos
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2009, 12:01:53 AM »

true Bryan, however they do look good lit up on the display scene.  

i for one have fitted navigation lights to both nord Icelandia and Gemini, and will be at some point refitting them to Celestia.  usually they stay off however there is nothing like having a boat on the water at night lit up.  I have tried to keep Nord Icelandia and Gemini pretty much to what they would have.  

deck lights and operational status lights etc.

Nord Icelandia's lights as to what she would be displaying took some asking around, i think I got it right though
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Re: Lights and other gizmos
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2009, 12:39:58 AM »

ditto to that , i mean who would light thir boat up too much   :embarrassed:

but then again this does look nice in print and even better in real life on the water (not mine though)
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Re: Lights and other gizmos
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2009, 03:49:28 AM »

But the lights are meant for the evening, not the day time...

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Re: Lights and other gizmos
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2009, 06:08:16 AM »

I feel a new TV show in the make

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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2009, 06:18:47 AM »

Going back 50 or 60 years, modellers were quite happy to accept static versions of fittings on their models.

These days, the market place has become rather more sophisticated, and manufacturers are trying hard to produce working versions of model fittings and equipment for more demanding modellers.

It's a growing trend - expect to see a lot more development in this area of the hobby.

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Re: Lights and other gizmos
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2009, 08:10:13 AM »

So you don't do any night sailing then Bryan? You should try it it's very relaxing
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Re: Lights and other gizmos
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2009, 08:34:57 AM »

If people are building exact scale models that look the same as the real vessel then surely fitting lights as per the real vessel is a must?  There are quite a few clubs that hold night sails reguarly so lighting is needed at these events anyway....

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« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2009, 08:39:49 AM »

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If people are building exact scale models that look the same as the real vessel then surely fitting lights as per the real vessel is a must?  There are quite a few clubs that hold night sails reguarly so lighting is needed at these events anyway

Absolutely right, I love night sailing. :-))
Anyway, if someone wants to sail a boat covered in fairylights why shouldn't they?  {:-{
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Re: Lights and other gizmos
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2009, 09:14:18 AM »

Surely the point is that it is up to the individual modeller to decide what to put on his own boats? Like Andy, I thoroughly enjoy night sailings, therefore some of my boats are equipped with appropriate lighting. I do not use the lights in the daylight, but when the light fades, then illuminated boats come into their own. In fact the two clubs that I belong to will be at a charity event this weekend, and I have arranged for a number of us to have our boats on the water in the evening on Saturday, an extra 'draw' for spectators, and a chance for them to put their hands in their pockets to the benefit of charities, who are hard-pressed at this time.

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Re: Lights and other gizmos
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2009, 09:54:09 AM »

I wouldnt of thought that people display there lighting systems during the day anyway, the lighting output is not enough to see them in daylight?

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Re: Lights and other gizmos
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2009, 10:05:23 AM »

I think the tone of Bryan's post, suggests he had had a bad day and was just being a bit naughty!! %% %%
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« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2009, 10:13:59 AM »

Depends on the how it was set up.

If you look for them you might see them...  %)
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« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2009, 10:56:23 AM »

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I think the tone of Bryan's post, suggests he had had a bad day


Again?

I don't think he grasps the meaning of "Chav" either
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Re: Lights and other gizmos
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2009, 11:16:47 AM »

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I think the tone of Bryan's post, suggests he had had a bad day


Again?

I don't think he grasps the meaning of "Chav" either

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Re: Lights and other gizmos
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2009, 11:55:27 AM »


Boats with lights also look good on the mantlepiece with the family come round at Christmas.....  ;)
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Re: Lights and other gizmos
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2009, 12:37:57 PM »

Not all shows are floodlit!
Sometimes it is good to see just what CAN be done.



If we are being picky......how often do we see a ship sailing.....ie moving on the water..at a display , flying the 'Jack ?

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Re: Lights and other gizmos
« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2009, 01:39:12 PM »

a few from the old ellesmere port show at the epic centre.  




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Re: Lights and other gizmos
« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2009, 03:19:23 PM »

These lights and gizmos obviously give delight to their owners (and spectators) and for me, this is the most important criteria.  :-)
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« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2009, 03:29:47 PM »

Perky, exactly!

two IDENTICAL boats, both built to a high standard, one with dummy lights, one with functioning lights, im sure i know which one will get the most looks.
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Re: Lights and other gizmos
« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2009, 03:42:30 PM »

Some night shots of Nord Icelandia taken at wicksteed, these were taken without Flash to get the best out of the lights on the boat.

They may not be totally accurate but I'm happy with the results.  All LED's on two circuits to spread the load



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Re: Lights and other gizmos
« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2009, 07:09:33 PM »

So you don't do any night sailing then Bryan? You should try it it's very relaxing
I would love to, but our local park (and hence the lake) is shut at dusk. Apart from that our license prohibits night sailing.
Some of the earlier postings on this thread are great.......but I'm a little nonplussed by the pic of a tug showing towing lights  AND the "hampered vessel" lights. (Red-white-red). Can't have both at the same time! BY.
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« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2009, 07:16:05 PM »

I think the tone of Bryan's post, suggests he had had a bad day and was just being a bit naughty!! %% %%
Not at all! A very good day in fact. What started it off was fitting the mast light on the ferry. I was going to make it a working one and the other thoughts came to mind. So I've decided not to light up the nav.lights. But I'll probably fit working interior ones. BY.
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Re: Lights and other gizmos
« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2009, 07:18:47 PM »

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Again?

I don't think he grasps the meaning of "Chav" either
Chav and Bling mean the same to me. Tasteless and over the top. Neither has a place in model boat building.
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Re: Lights and other gizmos
« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2009, 07:35:46 PM »

Hello

I agree with you Brian some time model mast looks like xmas three with "free lance" light BUT I don't agree with you with this

 but I'm a little nonplussed by the pic of a tug showing towing lights  AND the "hampered vessel" lights. (Red-white-red). Can't have both at the same time!

As it's on the manual to have the towing light + red-white-red.  When for example you have a tow and you can't change heading. It's also the case for a slavage tug connecting the lines.



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