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Author Topic: Friggin' in the Riggin' HMS Victory  (Read 55315 times)

JohnReid

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Re: Friggin' in the Riggin' HMS Victory
« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2009, 04:44:35 PM »

Step 15

Breast Backstays

Hackney P64

Longridge P231-32 Fig 162 (good drawing of the breast backstay purchase)
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JohnReid

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Re: Friggin' in the Riggin' HMS Victory
« Reply #26 on: December 07, 2009, 04:46:04 PM »

Step 16

Fore Topmast Standing Backstay

Hack P64
Long P222

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Step 17

Main Topmast Standing Backstay

Hack P64
Long P222
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JohnReid

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Re: Friggin' in the Riggin' HMS Victory
« Reply #27 on: December 07, 2009, 04:47:50 PM »

Please note:
For large pics of the rigging please go to my photobucket.When on my main page scroll down the albums list on the port side.
Click on "Victory book" and there you will find large and very large pictures , in approximately the right sequence for rigging Victory.Remember these pics are of a 1/72 scale model blown up to make your job of rigging easier.Color,scale,small flaws and mistakes will be embarrassingly obvious to the expert but at scale distance to the ordinary modeler it looks fine.Remember this is a diorama and I did use some artistic license for overall effect.Anyway that's my story and I'm sticking to it!
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JohnReid

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Re: Friggin' in the Riggin' HMS Victory
« Reply #28 on: December 07, 2009, 04:51:15 PM »

The most important thing is the rigging sequence and that I can vouch for because when I finished I only had two pieces of running rigging that I couldn't place properly.I forget what they were now but because I no longer had access to the bottom of the mast I had to belay them to the shrouds.
After I finish the sequence of rigging I plan to identify the belaying points on the ship for each step of the rigging process .I plan to identify them by keying them to each step that I am working on now.The actual run of the rigging is covered very well by Longridge but he like all the others(except Hackney) is very confusing on the step-by step sequence,In other words the "how to..." of how the rig the ship in the proper order, which in this case happens to be how the real ship was rigged by her riggers at the time.Luckily for us as modelers it also happens to be the best method to rig a model. If you are not careful you can very quickly loose access to critical areas in all the maze of rigging.As a general rule I never permanently belay anything until thinking it though.Sometimes it is tempting to want to completely finish a step without really thinking about it.A good example would be the shrouds ,do not finish them with laniards and ratlines until the end of the rigging process.You can finish them individually but leave the laniards(the ropes between the deadeyes} loose.I don't know how many times I had to free them to get access to the running rigging belaying points at the foot of the masts.The ratlines you will have good access to until the end so there is no rush to finish them.
It is very important to keep asking yourself "will I need future access to this area ?" and resist the temptation to "finish it " permanently.
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JohnReid

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Re: Friggin' in the Riggin' HMS Victory
« Reply #29 on: December 07, 2009, 04:52:58 PM »

Step 18

Mizzen topmast standing backstay.

Hack P64 Fig 11

Long P222
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JohnReid

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Re: Friggin' in the Riggin' HMS Victory
« Reply #30 on: December 07, 2009, 04:54:40 PM »

Step 19

Fore topmast shifting backstay

Hack P64

Long P231
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JohnReid

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Re: Friggin' in the Riggin' HMS Victory
« Reply #31 on: December 07, 2009, 04:56:19 PM »

Step 20

Main topmast shifting backstay.

Hack P65

Long P231
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JohnReid

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Re: Friggin' in the Riggin' HMS Victory
« Reply #32 on: December 07, 2009, 04:58:02 PM »

Please note:
There is one exception to what I said about rigging the ratlines and that is the area between the futtock stave and the deadeyes at the top.Due to reasons of accessibility the ratlines that run from the futtock stave to the masthead are best installed before the futtock shrouds.See:Longridge P229 Fig 157 and Plate 63.
When climbing the shrouds to the top most sailors would use the ratlines attached to the futtock shrouds instead of going up the safer way through the "lubbers hole".( "landlubber")
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JohnReid

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Re: Friggin' in the Riggin' HMS Victory
« Reply #33 on: December 08, 2009, 10:34:23 PM »

Step 21

Mizzen topmast shifting backstay.

Hack P65

Long P231-32
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JohnReid

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Re: Friggin' in the Riggin' HMS Victory
« Reply #34 on: December 08, 2009, 11:20:37 PM »

Step 22

Foretopmast preventer stay

Hack P65

Long P222

Please Note:
that you have to jump around from one page to the other when following Longridge,Hackney however is consistently step-by-step.This is the beauty of Hackney's book.
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JohnReid

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Re: Friggin' in the Riggin' HMS Victory
« Reply #35 on: December 08, 2009, 11:32:01 PM »

Step 23

Foretopmast stay

Hack P65

Long P222
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JohnReid

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Re: Friggin' in the Riggin' HMS Victory
« Reply #36 on: December 09, 2009, 04:18:52 PM »


Bobstays
Note:new pic format. :-)
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JohnReid

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Re: Friggin' in the Riggin' HMS Victory
« Reply #37 on: December 10, 2009, 03:17:27 AM »



New pic format.

Sorry I can't edit the old ones.As you can see this is a work in progress.This should be the last pic format. %)
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JohnReid

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Re: Friggin' in the Riggin' HMS Victory
« Reply #38 on: December 10, 2009, 03:49:53 AM »

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Re: Friggin' in the Riggin' HMS Victory
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Re: Friggin' in the Riggin' HMS Victory
« Reply #48 on: December 11, 2009, 02:59:31 PM »

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JohnReid

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Re: Friggin' in the Riggin' HMS Victory
« Reply #49 on: December 11, 2009, 03:37:27 PM »

My Reference Source for this thread is Hackney's book.
He lists his reference sources as the following:
Published
The Anatomy of Nelson's Ships
Longridge

HMS Victory;Building ,Restoration and Repair
Bugler

Unpublished
Admiralty rigging charts and deck diagram at Portsmouth Dockyard.

Observation
Detailed examination of HMS Victory in Trafalgar condition at Portsmouth Dockyard

Discussions with
The Captain and ship's company of HMS Victory
The Master Rigger and his staff at Portsmouth Dockyard
The Curator and staff of the Victory Museum
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