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Re: 1:72 scale HMS RODNEY refit
« Reply #50 on: December 19, 2010, 12:55:44 PM »

So where's the snow???
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Re: 1:72 scale HMS RODNEY refit
« Reply #51 on: December 19, 2010, 04:02:29 PM »

Aha maninthestreet!  Good question.

Sorry to mislead you. :embarrassed: The last image in the thread was taken 16th November this year. Plenty sunshine, no snow! ;)

The refit is actually further down the road than the image reveals, and, as I said in a recent post, the forward section is expected to be completed by Christmas. All that is required is the fitting of the upper deck clutter, which I was doing yesterday amid 4" of snow. But I didn't want to lug a three metre lump of flotsam (or is it jetsam?) out into the snow just to photograph it.

To date, the cable deck and anchor chains are in situ; all three breakwaters are fitted. The torpedo handling hatch assembly is in place with its attendant spars. The torpedo/paravane handling rooms have been affixed to leeward side of the forward breakwater. Most of the upper deck hatches are in place as well as 50% of the mushroom vents and barbette trunkings.

Hopefully next week I will get an image of the completed pointy bit (weather permitting) and perhaps marry both ends together in order to get a 'before and after' representation of the refit.

But many thanks for your observation and thanks for looking in. :-))
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Re: 1:72 scale HMS RODNEY refit
« Reply #52 on: December 19, 2010, 04:43:26 PM »

where did you have 4" of snow yesterday ? im by the historic dock gates where it was only a couple of inches deep , then the sun had melted most of it away by lunch time ! i know it was trying today , just as i arrived at the lake , it propmtly stopped just after id got home again ! the lake is starting to freeze over at the peir end ! ! are any of your members involved with the charity lake of lights evening this week ?
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Yarpie

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Re: 1:72 scale HMS RODNEY refit
« Reply #53 on: December 20, 2010, 04:26:11 PM »

The forward section today, almost complete:
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Re: 1:72 scale HMS RODNEY refit
« Reply #54 on: December 20, 2010, 04:27:42 PM »

More:
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Re: 1:72 scale HMS RODNEY refit
« Reply #55 on: December 20, 2010, 04:28:52 PM »

Some more:
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Yarpie

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Re: 1:72 scale HMS RODNEY refit
« Reply #56 on: December 20, 2010, 04:31:02 PM »

And again:
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Yarpie

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Re: 1:72 scale HMS RODNEY refit
« Reply #57 on: December 20, 2010, 04:40:40 PM »

By the way, on the "Warships Navy Military" page, under subjects, in the left margin, this subject has a 'pages with a pen and a dark background' symbol. I've gone to the bottom of the page to see what the legend means but it's not featured.

I've not noticed it on any other thread either. What does it signify please?  I'm not paranoid, honest. %%

Anyway, final two images.

I hope that you feel that the refit has improved the forward section, so with your approval, I will attack the aft section in the New Year.

Happy Christmas and a Peaceful and Prosperous New Year to all you Maymemers! :-))
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Yarpie

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Re: 1:72 scale HMS RODNEY refit
« Reply #58 on: December 20, 2010, 04:45:34 PM »

Just a reminder of what she looked like four months ago:
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pugwash

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Re: 1:72 scale HMS RODNEY refit
« Reply #59 on: December 20, 2010, 04:53:40 PM »

a vast improvement Yarpie now get stuck into the stern section.
Well done so far.
Geoff
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Re: 1:72 scale HMS RODNEY refit
« Reply #60 on: December 20, 2010, 05:47:33 PM »

Looking very tidy indeed. An incentive to our other members to give some of their models a ' bit of a going over' before the new season, maybe?
Or do what I do and just slap some rust on!!!  :-))
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Re: 1:72 scale HMS RODNEY refit
« Reply #61 on: December 20, 2010, 06:08:52 PM »

Watching this rebuild has reminded me that super detail is'nt necessary or essential to have a great model, whatever scale is chosen. There's more than enough features on this and most other subjects to make a really  impressive model. This is a large build by any standard and it will look superb  in or out of the water and inspire. In my book, a less detailed working model like this is worth five fragile exhibits collecting dust on a shelf or in a museum. The cammo paint scheme is awesome at this scale.  
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Re: 1:72 scale HMS RODNEY refit
« Reply #62 on: December 21, 2010, 03:40:04 PM »

Many thanks gentlemen for your very kind comments. %)

Alan, I didn't need to try your add-rust tip. I bought some 'brass' eyelets from a stall and fitted them (200) as scuttles. Didn't take long for the salt water at Canoe Lake to suss them as frauds! :(( Had to drill-out and replace the lot. %%

Perkasaman, I am touched by your erudite comment. Your views have inspired this relative 'beginner' to recommence the refit as soon as possible (but probably not Christmas Day).

By way of a Christmas card to you all, a series of images taken this morning in the remnants of the latest snowfall. These photos show the clean lines of the forward section against the rather battered and forlorn lines of the aft section. The natural daylight shows the correct colouring of the 'decking' effect (and camouflage) and how effective a pen can be rather than individual planking. (Although simulated planking is nowhere near as satisfying as the real thing).

I didn't get the opportunity to marry both ends together as my little digi-camera isn't good enough to capture detail close-in. But I'm sure that the afficionado's out there can concieve just how it fits together.

Once again, Seasons Greetings to all and thanks for looking in.
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Re: 1:72 scale HMS RODNEY refit
« Reply #63 on: December 21, 2010, 03:41:53 PM »

Next two:
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Re: 1:72 scale HMS RODNEY refit
« Reply #64 on: December 21, 2010, 04:11:04 PM »

Just room to add an additional centre piece and have a Super G3.

Bob
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Yarpie

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Re: 1:72 scale HMS RODNEY refit
« Reply #65 on: December 21, 2010, 04:23:27 PM »

Now there's a thought Bob!

But what about the legion of lurking 'anoraks' out there? They'd have a field day! <*<

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Re: 1:72 scale HMS RODNEY refit
« Reply #66 on: December 21, 2010, 04:31:41 PM »

And finally the last two images which clearly show the need for a refit and revamp. But is there an improvement?

My thanks at this time must go to the two guys who built this model in the first place, without their initial efforts I wouldn't have had a clue where to start.

Cheers guys. :-))
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Re: 1:72 scale HMS RODNEY refit
« Reply #67 on: December 21, 2010, 05:12:55 PM »

Now there's a thought Bob!

But what about the legion of lurking 'anoraks' out there? They'd have a field day! <*<

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I'll keep them at bay, with my extensive knowledge/made up stuff!! :-))
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Re: 1:72 scale HMS RODNEY refit
« Reply #68 on: December 21, 2010, 05:31:22 PM »

Thanks Alan, you're like a father to me......the one I've yet to trace ......... <:(

......O font of all wisdom and fings wot float. %)

Merry Christmas mate. :-))
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Re: 1:72 scale HMS RODNEY refit
« Reply #69 on: December 21, 2010, 07:48:21 PM »

Hello
I have been watching this refit and I think you are doing a great job. Th planking looks great. How do the two half join togther?

John
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Re: 1:72 scale HMS RODNEY refit
« Reply #70 on: December 21, 2010, 08:40:37 PM »

i think the two halves bolt together ! , the front is looking good although im not sure about the ideas of weathering a model , the elements of time over its use can do a pretty good job , especially in that salty water that we are running in ! jon
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Re: 1:72 scale HMS RODNEY refit
« Reply #71 on: December 21, 2010, 10:49:52 PM »

You must weather the ship, any one who looks at ships, sees the weathering.

We were singing the quality of this rebuild, and the thread in general, in the pub tonight, for me it is a stand out thread. There are some modellers on here whose work is so far above what I can do, it's unreal, I can see myself doing what you're are doing - if I had the room.

Top work man, top work.
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Re: 1:72 scale HMS RODNEY refit
« Reply #72 on: December 22, 2010, 12:48:57 PM »

Thanks for your comments guys. :-)

cos918: As Triumphjon suggests, both ends bolt together. It's a simple arrangement, both bulkheads are flush; with the forward section bulkhead housing three captive bolts. The aft section has three facilitating holes and when both ends are married-up they are secured with rubber washers, backing steel washers and wingnuts. This arrangement has proved 100% watertight in the past but only if the rubber washers are carefully put in place. The only water ingress is sometimes by way of prolonged periods of going astern, where small quantities of water can be pushed back up the propeller tubes. Critical point is when the model is lowered into the water with all of the ballast in situ. There are stresses to both bulkheads and the whole model tends to sag just a little at the join! I may in future lower the model into the water minus the ballast just to relieve the stresses on both model and owner! %%

Steve, I take your point about weathering on ships. This is something that manifests itself moreso on commercial shipping than warships (although the iconic image of HMS HERMES returning from the South Atlantic in 1982 would tend to belie this statement). There's more bullsh*t on RN ships than commercial ones, after all, in commerce, time is money. Weathering to the modeller is also a preference and some poor attempts at weathering would have been better left alone. Conversely, I have seen some brilliant examples where the weathering has been subtly applied and usage has enhanced the effect. One example is unbuiltnautilus's ORCA. Outstanding. I must go along with Triumphjon's idea for the time being as far as RODNEY is concerned. The salt water content of where we sail, combined with regular usage, may soon provide some natural weathering. If not, I will take lessons from some of the guys and 'slap some rust on' as has been suggested earlier in the thread. And weathering was an important feature during wartime operations, especially amongst the hard worked escorts, Destroyers, Corvettes and Armed trawlers. By comparison, capital ships, such as RODNEY, spent a lot of time alongside the wall. But Steve, I am flattered to think that my refit has been discussed in the local pub! :embarrassed: :embarrassed: Next time mate, it's my round! Thank you very much for your kind comment and Seasons Greetings to you and yours. :-))
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Re: 1:72 scale HMS RODNEY refit
« Reply #73 on: December 23, 2010, 02:20:49 PM »

Thanks Alan, you're like a father to me......the one I've yet to trace ......... <:(

......O font of all wisdom and fings wot float. %)

Merry Christmas mate. :-))


Thanks for the kind words regarding my, now approaching 24 year old Orca. Its nice to see your HMS Rodney thread outstripping my SS Ohio thread, I must work harder on that, and the best insults are truly those you have to think about...Keep up the good work and Merry Christmas one and all, remember us here in the shop over this happy time of year though... >>:-( <:( <*< >:-o {:-{
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Re: 1:72 scale HMS RODNEY refit
« Reply #74 on: December 24, 2010, 07:52:59 PM »

Yarpy, your Rodney is a beaut ,how did you get the skills ,re Orca i have one ,needs engines etc ,but the chap who built her was a master at weathering .But i really would love to see your model HMS Rodney on the water ,bet she,s stunning .well done .an all the best  4 Chrismas and New year .301   
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