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swordfish fairey

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New Ark Royal ??
« on: August 06, 2011, 01:55:49 pm »

Just heard a rumour that the second of the new carriers is to be renamed Ark Royal  instead of Prince of Wales,( if it ever gets built of course), anyone confirm this. This rumour came via the navy's buzz system.
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Re: New Ark Royal ??
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2011, 04:31:40 pm »

Anything would be better than the prince of wales.What has he ever really done? Covered with medals from
mumsey, talks to plants, and is on record as wanting to be a toilet seat. John.
 
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Re: New Ark Royal ??
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2011, 05:25:19 pm »

Think the name "Prince Of Wales" for a ship has been around a lot longer than Charles, who in my opinion has actually been out spoken on a lot of matters which have now become a matter of practice in terms of environmental issues....Go Charles Go.. :}  as for talking to plants how do you think my pumpkin last year grew to 13 stones..

However I think that Both are great and famous names for the new Carrier

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Re: New Ark Royal ??
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2011, 05:51:26 pm »

Mainly for JohnS.......I don't know how old you are, but old Charlie has been quite a useful member of society over the years.
Early years trained as a helicopter (and fixed wing) pilot. Commanded a Minesweeper in his RN days. Has set up all sorts of trusts to help others. I could go on. The "newspapers" seem intent on running him down on a permanent basis. I'm no great fan, but I do suggest that you stop shooting from the hip and learn a bit more about his works. BY.
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Re: New Ark Royal ??
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2011, 06:25:41 pm »

Prince Charles, met him once, nice guy who is personally awkward and can make others feel that way as well. 

He means well, but not a patch on his mum. :-))
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Re: New Ark Royal ??
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2011, 10:56:02 pm »

Interesting. I know PoW has been a famous naval name as has warships named after the monarch. But some how, QE2 on a warship unlike KGV just doesnt seem right. However, not being a monarchist, was King George 5th alive when KGV was launched? Is it unusual to have a current ship named after a living monarch?

The first carrier should be named Ark Royal rather than QE2 and the second PoW. All in my opinion  :-))
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Re: New Ark Royal ??
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2011, 11:48:48 pm »

Justboatonic - Sorry you have your facts ALL wrong -  this ship will not be named after the present monarch -
 when she was approached for permission to use this name she said yes but only if it was to be named after the Tudor
Queen Elizabeth and it will not have a 2 after the QE
Do agree about the name Ark Royal though
Geoff
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« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2011, 08:37:32 am »

Justboatonic - Sorry you have your facts ALL wrong -  this ship will not be named after the present monarch -
 when she was approached for permission to use this name she said yes but only if it was to be named after the Tudor
Queen Elizabeth and it will not have a 2 after the QE
Do agree about the name Ark Royal though
Geoff

Did not realise that, in which case the second one should be HMS Sir Francis Drake. 

Especially for anti-Pirate operations.
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Re: New Ark Royal ??
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2011, 08:52:02 am »

Use of Queen Elizabeth II for the current monarch caused controversy in Scotland due to the fact that the Tudor queen was not queen of Scotland, the two countries being separate at that time.  King James had both numbers for Scotland and England after the Union. I wonder if Her Majesty (or her advisers) considered the reaction north of the border this time ?
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Re: New Ark Royal ??
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2011, 12:32:05 am »

Justboatonic - Sorry you have your facts ALL wrong -  this ship will not be named after the present monarch -
 when she was approached for permission to use this name she said yes but only if it was to be named after the Tudor
Queen Elizabeth and it will not have a 2 after the QE
Do agree about the name Ark Royal though
Geoff

Interesting! However, one has to wonder just what the tudor Queen Elizabeth has to do with the modern world!
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« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2011, 12:44:51 am »

What would you have as a ships name relevant to modern Britain  HMS Chav, Tesco, Invalidity, Riot.
If you had ever served in the Navy you would know that they like traditional names for their ships.
Personally I would have kept to old carrier names.  Ark, Victorious or Eagle would have been my first three choices

Geoff
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Re: New Ark Royal ??
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2011, 08:07:23 am »

Have to agree with that Geoff!

Colin
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« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2011, 06:02:09 pm »

Most Naval capital ships were named after monarchs and admiral primarily.
the KGV class should of been called King George VI but King George VI said no and said to call it after his father.


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« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2011, 06:14:21 pm »

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Interesting! However, one has to wonder just what the tudor Queen Elizabeth has to do with the modern world!

She is credited with the formation of the Royal Navy we know today by getting the privateers to act as a unified force.
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Re: New Ark Royal ??
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2011, 06:57:08 pm »

Why not Victory or Adminral Nelson?

More likely to be something like HMS Rooney or HMS Winehouse tho
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« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2011, 07:05:44 pm »

We already have HMS Victory, she is still in commission.

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Re: New Ark Royal ??
« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2011, 07:10:31 pm »

Macedonian hasn't been used in a while.  ;)
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Re: New Ark Royal ??
« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2011, 07:43:43 pm »

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Macedonian hasn't been used in a while

Are you referring to Prince Phillip?
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Re: New Ark Royal ??
« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2011, 12:32:37 am »

She is credited with the formation of the Royal Navy we know today by getting the privateers to act as a unified force.

Thought that was her arl fella the 8th?

As far as pugwash goes on about chav names, where have I suggested that!?

If you (and the navy) want traditional names, then Ark Royal is more traditional than PoW for a carrier!
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Re: New Ark Royal ??
« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2011, 05:46:41 am »



As far as pugwash goes on about chav names, where have I suggested that!?


I dont think he meant it like that.... more along the lines of the media deciding what a ship should be named.  Which would mean whatever nobody is currently "in" would get a ship named after them.

Maybe they could get Ant and Dec to host a show and have phone in polls :D

Although the Lord Sainsbury doesn't sound too bad....
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Re: New Ark Royal ??
« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2011, 01:29:32 am »

You would end up with the HMS Mel C, but then agian if the audience was old enough it might be the HMS Pink Floyd
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« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2011, 05:25:32 am »

You would end up with the HMS Mel C, but then agian if the audience was old enough it might be the HMS Pink Floyd

I suppose thats better than HMS Scary Spice lol

Pink Floyd thats not so bad..... or perhaps HMS Bob Geldoff

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Re: New Ark Royal ??
« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2011, 09:26:26 am »

I have three names


HMS ALEMEIN

HMS ARK ROYAL 

HMS VOSPER
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Re: New Ark Royal ??
« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2011, 09:44:06 am »

Anything would be better than the prince of wales.What has he ever really done? Covered with medals from
mumsey, talks to plants, and is on record as wanting to be a toilet seat. John.
 

If they drop Prince of Wales it's probably because the powers that be are expecting full devolution and being based in Londonland, don't want one named after anything Welsh, Scottish...IMO
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Re: New Ark Royal ??
« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2011, 11:03:49 am »

With only 79 commissioned ships in the current RN, perhaps we could double-up on names in order to keep some of the traditional ones?  %%

The aircraft carriers could therefore be:

HMS Invincilous and HMS Indefatomitable (though I like HMS Princess Royal Oak Leaf, myself)

But it's likely that we'll end up with HMS Tesco and HMS HSBC.

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