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dondecap

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rescue tugs from 2nd WW
« on: September 12, 2011, 09:04:51 AM »

hi guys,
I am looking at building HMS Stormking, origionaly Stormcock but renamed at commission.
a tug which was around for ships in trouble in the channel and D DAY etc during the 2nd world war,later sold a few times and ended up in Genoa, Italy and renamed Toro.
has any one done one of this breed?  the    Assurance class.
Laid down   30 Jul 1942,    Launched   24 Nov 1942,    Commissioned   29 Mar 1943
it will be electric power not the original steam.

regards
don
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dondecap

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Re: rescue tugs from 2nd WW
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2011, 10:33:00 AM »

hi guys.
here is a steam driven HMS STORM KING  from the http://www.northweststeamsociety.org/Pages/NWSShome.htm
that was done in 2008/9 BY William D. Cody ....USA

looks rather interesting.
regards
don
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gingyer

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Re: rescue tugs from 2nd WW
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2011, 11:14:48 AM »

Modelslipway do a kit for it :-))
and I think there is a build thread on here some where???
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dondecap

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Re: rescue tugs from 2nd WW
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2011, 11:50:15 AM »

hi gingyer.
I did a search for the vessel name but returned nothing....would I have to search the member name?
regards
don
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Re: rescue tugs from 2nd WW
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2011, 12:17:51 PM »

hi guys,
I am looking at building HMS Stormking, origionaly Stormcock but renamed at commission.
a tug which was around for ships in trouble in the channel and D DAY etc during the 2nd world war,later sold a few times and ended up in Genoa, Italy and renamed Toro.
has any one done one of this breed?  the    Assurance class.
Laid down   30 Jul 1942,    Launched   24 Nov 1942,    Commissioned   29 Mar 1943
it will be electric power not the original steam.

regards
don

MSW do the Assurance in 1\43 scale. Stormking had pennant number W87 according to the site.

Ship doesnt look anything like the one in the pic in your later post though!
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dondecap

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Re: rescue tugs from 2nd WW
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2011, 12:34:59 PM »

hi justboatonic
that was done in 2008/9 BY William D. Cody ....USA It does not look like a good representation of the boat does it, it was about all I could find in the 'model' line , nice model though.looks more modern styling.
 the original info came from from the ones on uboat.net
I have found a pic from member  'oldiron' showing the 'tow hook' of the model storm king.
here  http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=15499.0
 but no article about the model.
regards
don
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dondecap

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Re: rescue tugs from 2nd WW
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2011, 01:21:35 PM »

hi guys,
well I have traced pics of her up to 1958 when she became 'Melanie Fair'
and no superstructure changes have been made she was later sold to italy company and renamed 'toro' but I can find no referance to her under that name .
BUT there was a Toro bult in 1966 that had a modern superstructure like the steam version ..similar hull/deck lines but fatter funnel .. I wonder if there is a mix of the new one and the 1942 one in the steam version. looks very similar to the steam version model..


regards
don
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dondecap

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Re: rescue tugs from 2nd WW
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2011, 02:09:54 PM »

hi all.
just spotted a mistake in the above post.
it should read the later toro has 'similar' hull/deck lines.... the top bow line actually is longer on the modern ship.
regards
don
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Re: rescue tugs from 2nd WW
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2011, 03:20:34 PM »

hi guys,
well I have traced pics of her up to 1958 when she became 'Melanie Fair'
and no superstructure changes have been made she was later sold to italy company and renamed 'toro' but I can find no referance to her under that name .
BUT there was a Toro bult in 1966 that had a modern superstructure like the steam version ..same hull/deck lines but fatter funnel .. I wonder if there is a mix of the new one and the 1942 one in the steam version. looks very similar to the steam version model..


regards
don

Hmmmm. If that is the 'original' stormking, she's had some radical work done on her topside. Im not too convinced its the same tug although it is possible it was heavily modified.
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dondecap

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Re: rescue tugs from 2nd WW
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2011, 03:26:37 PM »

hi mate.
no that was a new build.. the original was scraped in italy
but both come up on search....I was just thinking that the 'USA steamer build' looked like a mix of the two ;)
regards
don
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knoby

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Re: rescue tugs from 2nd WW
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2011, 06:47:47 PM »

found a picture of the model, but couldnt find any info on the full size vessel, other than what you found
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dondecap

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Re: rescue tugs from 2nd WW
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2011, 07:11:56 PM »

hi knoby,
is that a picture of a model of the storm king?   as at 1942/3
where please.
regards
don
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knoby

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Re: rescue tugs from 2nd WW
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2011, 07:39:52 PM »

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knoby

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Re: rescue tugs from 2nd WW
« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2011, 07:47:40 PM »

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dondecap

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Re: rescue tugs from 2nd WW
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2011, 09:49:17 PM »

hi knoby.
cheers mate,
I got the uboat.net one but the color one is a good pic referance :)
regards
don
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dondecap

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Re: rescue tugs from 2nd WW
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2011, 04:44:56 AM »

hi guys.
well I have sorted a hull plan.
the ones on 'ebay ' come out at
LENGTH 39
BEAM 8 1/2
scale 1/4in :1ft

on laying mine out they come out at
LENGTH 48"
BEAM mean 10"
Ooooppppps
so mine must be a fraction over 1/4in :1ft
bit more timber and glass then............. {-)
and it will be this one


regards
don
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tugmad

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Re: rescue tugs from 2nd WW
« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2011, 10:00:00 AM »

Hi dondecap   Here are a couple of pictures of a 1/32nd scale model of the Assiduous that I made a few years ago in 2003 she was fitted with a Cheddar Proteus steam plant which could be removed and an electric motor put in instead for sailing where steam was not allowed she was scratch built plank on frame .
after being sold on she is still around somehere in Kent I think.  A T B  Geo.
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dondecap

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Re: rescue tugs from 2nd WW
« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2011, 12:39:59 PM »

hi tugmad,
thanks a bunch mate,
these are good pics of a smart model :)
proper build eh, with a steam plant..........out of my range I am afraid, so it will be good old electric.
hopefully I will be starting this in a week or so .....just got to rummage for the materials ;)
I know they are there some where  %)
1/32 scale ...what length was she at that scale?

regards
don
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farrow

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Re: rescue tugs from 2nd WW
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2011, 04:29:56 PM »

As soon as I fathom out my scanner, I have two old prints of the Saucy and the Assiduous in what I believe black and buff one of them when it was in the fleet target towing setup, which I will upload.
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dondecap

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Re: rescue tugs from 2nd WW
« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2011, 06:43:23 PM »

hi Dodes .
that would be great cheers.
there were so many camo's changing in that 4 year period it would be helpfull.
camo???............ I'd better start cutting the ribs out............ :-) :-)

regards
don
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tugmad

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Re: rescue tugs from 2nd WW
« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2011, 08:20:43 AM »

Hi Don  as far as I can remember she was about50 inches long and I think that it was 5/16ths to the foot ,it was 9 years ago and time plays tricks as you get older. :embarrassed:
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dondecap

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Re: rescue tugs from 2nd WW
« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2011, 09:55:48 AM »

hi tugmad .
well the plans I came across and managed to enlarge to actual scale came out at 48ins long which is about the scale yours was then,but they are not too clear.
 I also have a set coming at 1/4in :1ft which comes out at 39ins long.
so I may just do the smaller one......depends if the plans are complete.
your looks a superb model..... I like steam but it is way out of my price range :)
 many thanks for the picture.
between them all I have quite a good guide now for surface work/detail.


regards
don
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farrow

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Re: rescue tugs from 2nd WW
« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2011, 10:46:41 AM »

I expect you know, but in case you do not, Stormking waswas renamed Tryphon in 1947. In October 1958 she was sold for commercial use in HMDkyd Sheerness and was renamed Melanie Fair.
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dondecap

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Re: rescue tugs from 2nd WW
« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2011, 03:54:50 PM »

hi mate.
yes she 'got around' a bit eh?
it was after the renaming to Melanie Fair. that she dissapeard off the radar :)
there seems to nothing out there about Melanie Fair. or when she was eventualy scraped.

ps got the full?? info now :)

Miramar database have only one MELANIE FAIR a Tug built 1943 by Cochrane.Selby.Launched as STORMCOCK. ex STORMKING. ex TRYPHON.ex MELANIE FAIR.ex TORO. scrapped Italy 1969.

so eventualy scraped in 1969.

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don
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farrow

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Re: rescue tugs from 2nd WW
« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2011, 01:38:20 PM »

Not a bad length of service for a emergency wartime built tug, probaly had a planned life expectancy of 18 months to 2 years, the old St Margarets was 18months but went onto 40 odd years.
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