Can I , seeing it was myself who is a compleat novice to the world of submarines ..say that ,I did indeed buy the hull and the electrics from Andy ,after he had put it on this site ,I bought the item ,and he said he was going to Blackpool .Myself ,to Honour the the buying of ,paid the cash and that was that .Now some time later I have had a look at the Submarine site that is going on Mayhem ,got interested ,seeing that I had bought this ,what I have ,and have asked on site how / what do I do next ,but I had seen someone has got a accrilic tube ,so I sent away ,got the thing and every thing looks good ,but have put it on the back burner ,because there is more to this than I can digest instantly ,so there you have it .Now Today I see that its getting a bit what can I say ,?niggly as to who said what ,well people please dont ,I wont be riding the waves for a long time ,ha ha ,riding ,,cos I have a few more important things have surfaced ,ha ha ,surfaced .thanks for all who have pointed me to the help section I will pick it up in due course ,there is another pun , Sub,s are fasinating ,and to see what you guys have done ,amazing ,,so she is sitting at the back ,not doing any harm .thanks Dave .