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Re: ANOTHER 46" FIREBOAT RESTORATION PROJECT
« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2012, 10:04:05 am »

Hi Ian


I do not have any evidence that the FireBoats kits had block balsa on the bow, have an original drawing and it does not show block balsa bow. However I have considered this on both the 34" & 46" FireBoats.  Would make life a lot easier "I think"


Thanks Ian


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Re: ANOTHER 46" FIREBOAT RESTORATION PROJECT
« Reply #26 on: December 30, 2012, 10:06:43 am »

Hi Paul


Thanks for the advice, certainly the way to go me thinks... %)


All the best
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Re: ANOTHER 46" FIREBOAT RESTORATION PROJECT
« Reply #27 on: December 30, 2012, 10:16:45 am »

The restoration continues..... <*<


Have taken of the bottom skins and also the rear keel section, I'm going to replace the rear keel, as I'm having twin drive the original prop shaft will disappear with the new keel fitted.
Also having the hull in this state can get at the formers and fill all those holes in... :-))


The big question is should I block the bow.... %)


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Re: ANOTHER 46" FIREBOAT RESTORATION PROJECT
« Reply #28 on: December 30, 2012, 12:38:48 pm »

With the keel out, providing you can keep the frame square and aligned you might consider making the holes in the formers bigger as in lightening the structure? Cutting out the centres to leave a 1 1/4" (30mm) "rim" should be more than adequate. If you do "Block" the front, you can relieve the back of the blocks. If you're going to skin the hull with epoxy/fabric, you could also use blocks of extruded (blue or pink) foam, not the beaded type and only with EPOXY.
 
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Re: ANOTHER 46" FIREBOAT RESTORATION PROJECT
« Reply #29 on: December 30, 2012, 09:53:02 pm »

I'm with circlip all the way, cut out the centres make it lighter, horrible job you have there Mike, I finished the monitors (at last) tonight, your work rate is much faster than mine!
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Re: ANOTHER 46" FIREBOAT RESTORATION PROJECT
« Reply #30 on: December 31, 2012, 02:22:15 pm »

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ONE AND ALL....... :-))




The restoration continues....... <*<


Thanks for the advice guys, Richard, Ian, Paul, Dave,  and has given me much food for thought... :o
Bulkhead B4 will be cut away as Ian mentioned, this will be done before being fitted...and is a new replacement as the original was fuel damaged.


Pic below shows all the holes that need filling in...well its of to the party and see what the New Year brings...have a good one what ever you do....Mike


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Re: ANOTHER 46" FIREBOAT RESTORATION PROJECT
« Reply #31 on: December 31, 2012, 02:47:09 pm »

The word Tenacity springs to mind Mike   {-)  You've nearly re-kitted the b***er. All the best for next years Phoenix.
 
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« Reply #32 on: December 31, 2012, 06:19:17 pm »

instead of time consuming filling of the holes, just skin either side in a light ply, or plasticard, way quicker, just glue on,!! :-))
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Re: ANOTHER 46" FIREBOAT RESTORATION PROJECT
« Reply #33 on: December 31, 2012, 09:20:14 pm »

I had to fill some holes and just made some close fitting plugs and glued them in. Almost invisible and really quite quick if you can get the thickness right.

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Re: ANOTHER 46" FIREBOAT RESTORATION PROJECT
« Reply #34 on: January 03, 2013, 08:49:41 pm »

The restoration continues........ <*<


Thanks Ian.....needs must with this restoration.


Paul's idea of skinning the formers, is a good idea, but Dave's method is what I am going for.... :-))


Anyway Have been to the Model Shop today and bought some thick balsa, and have decided to block the nose, this will add strength, and any collisions with the quay side, should not cause any problems to the hull.. %%


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Re: ANOTHER 46" FIREBOAT RESTORATION PROJECT
« Reply #35 on: January 04, 2013, 07:06:48 pm »


The restoration continues....... <*<


Well have decided to block the bow section, when I got this FireBoat the front end didn't quite look right, and have just realised what was wrong, when this FireBoat was first built the two front Chine formers B2 were not glued in and this has the Chine stringers in the wrong place...glad I took of the skins now... %)




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« Reply #36 on: January 04, 2013, 08:33:12 pm »

The restoration continues..... <*<


Have the balsa block looks a lot in the picture, but this for my 34" FireBoat also, my intention is to re-skin the hull up-to Former B1, then block the bow, also will remove K3 (see pic in previous post) this will make the fitting of the blocks easier.


I think this method with blocking the bow will enable me to get a more accurate profile.


Have cut the rear keel replacement but not glued it place yet, or filled in the holes in the formers that need it.
Have also cut out new former B4 today but house-hold duties got in the way..... :((


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« Reply #37 on: January 05, 2013, 10:49:26 pm »

The restoration did not continue today..... ok2  house hold duties took over.. ;) ;)


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« Reply #38 on: January 06, 2013, 11:02:29 am »

No house-hold duties today... %% ...so the restoration can continue.... <*<


Have cut and fitted (but not glued) the new rear end of the keel, and cut out a new B4 bulkhead, this will be cut out as mentioned by Mr Circlip... :-))


Well thats as far as I'm going at the moment...just waiting for the batteries to charge and down to the lake for a sail...first time this year.. %%


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Re: ANOTHER 46" FIREBOAT RESTORATION PROJECT
« Reply #39 on: January 06, 2013, 09:39:49 pm »

loving the project, cant wait to see the end result  :}
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Re: ANOTHER 46" FIREBOAT RESTORATION PROJECT
« Reply #40 on: January 07, 2013, 10:40:22 am »




Thanks Hodgy1990, for the comments...lets hope it turns out right.. O0 O0


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« Reply #41 on: January 07, 2013, 04:36:19 pm »

The restoration continues..... <*<


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Re: ANOTHER 46" FIREBOAT RESTORATION PROJECT
« Reply #42 on: January 09, 2013, 06:31:23 pm »

No need to wait any longer.....the restoration continues..... <*< <*<


Things were going ok with this project until I started to remove the paint, then things have gone downhill ever since. Took the remaining skins of and found this, so, I'm glad in some ways but its making this into a big restoration..... >>:-(


This was always a long term project...!! still its going to worth it in the end.. ok2




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Re: ANOTHER 46" FIREBOAT RESTORATION PROJECT
« Reply #43 on: January 11, 2013, 02:37:21 pm »

The restoration continues....... <*<


Have spent the last couple of days removing the keel as around the engine area fuel had take hold of the keel also, so I decided to remove the whole of the keel and replace it with a new full length keel. As I'm having a twin motor set-up no need for a kit style keel. I know this seems as a lot of hard work but I want to have nearly zero maintaince when its finished, so its time well spent..."I hope"


Got a nice "flat" sheet of 1/4 ply from the model shop yesterday, so hope to get the new keel cut and fitted over the weekend...house hold duties permitting... {:-{ ....pictures to follow.


 
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« Reply #44 on: January 11, 2013, 04:07:12 pm »

Yep, it's getting closer and closer to a new "Kit" Mike  :-))   :D
 
 
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« Reply #45 on: January 11, 2013, 07:03:58 pm »

Hi Ian,
your quite right it feels like I'm getting close to a "new Kit".... ok2 
have save a few of the nails in a plastic container...then knock it of the bench...... <:( <:(




Fun and games.... <*<


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« Reply #46 on: January 18, 2013, 10:03:17 pm »

The restoration did not continue today..... <*< ......due to the snow {:-{ :((


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Re: ANOTHER 46" FIREBOAT RESTORATION PROJECT
« Reply #47 on: January 18, 2013, 10:53:07 pm »

How did you get that nice prety white effect to last,
wedon't seem to be able to get it over here O0 O0 %) %)
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« Reply #48 on: February 09, 2013, 05:59:19 pm »

Well its been a while since the restoration has been worked on, but finally got in the workshop today.. :D

As mentioned before the original keel was damaged with glow fuel and it was to be replaced, and as I was going down the twin motor set-up as per the full size boat. So there was no need for a 2 piece keel as per the original kit, so have replaced it with a new 1 piece keel.







The restoration continues.......... <*<
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« Reply #49 on: February 09, 2013, 06:11:02 pm »

The restoration continues..... <*<


After much sweating with the bandsaw that decided to play up...mind you its 40 years old at least, but finally after showing it a big hammer.. >>:-(  its worked a treat, and a nice 1 piece keel was the result, and after a bit of sanding here and there..I had the perfect fit...thats never happened before...!!

Have now glued it in place, leaving it to set over night...

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