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Re: Thunder Tiger VICTORIA yacht build - Ideal for non yachtsmen!
« Reply #25 on: May 29, 2007, 02:28:26 PM »

Congrats on crossing to the dark side.
And on a great weekend. Sorry I couldn't make it.

As for boat issue
I usually get a good 8 hours out of 4 duracells, unless it is realy windy and servo working very hard then 6 hours.
but I have no idea of mAH for duracell to compare.

If the servo is binding then it might consume more juice.
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Re: Thunder Tiger VICTORIA yacht build - Ideal for non yachtsmen!
« Reply #26 on: May 29, 2007, 06:41:55 PM »

   Martin,  I had the Victoria as my first sail boat and I still got it, along with a workshop full of other boats.   Vicky, as I call her has NEVER let me down, no leaks, no problems. ideal for taking to the lake when you don't feel like anything serious, however I did fit a Hitec Winch servo instead of a sail arm, bit more expensive and a little more thought but well worth it.   Enjoy your sailing.   bigH
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Re: Thunder Tiger VICTORIA yacht build - Ideal for non yachtsmen!
« Reply #27 on: July 23, 2007, 06:06:38 PM »

Hi Martin

Pardon my ignorance - my knowledge of Yachts is even less than my knowledge of tugs but I had a sail of our club yacht yesterday and I think I think I may be succumbing to infection.

Can you please tell me who manufactures the model and let me know of any suppliers?

Regards

Clegg
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Re: Thunder Tiger VICTORIA yacht build - Ideal for non yachtsmen!
« Reply #28 on: July 23, 2007, 11:11:50 PM »


The Victoria is made by Thunder Tiger - http://www.thundertiger-europe.com/
( Instructins - http://www.thundertiger-europe.com/downloads_manuals.html )

Your local model shop should be able to get one in within a few day if they don't already have one!
If not call the guys at Westbourne! - http://www.westbourne-models.com/

Any questions, just post on here ......
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Re: Thunder Tiger VICTORIA yacht build - Ideal for non yachtsmen!
« Reply #29 on: July 23, 2007, 11:29:23 PM »

Many thanks
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« Reply #30 on: July 23, 2007, 11:49:29 PM »

Hi Martin,
With regards to the servo sail arm length. It is best to have the arm as short as possible, as long as it still gives the required travel. This reduces the torque required therefore giving longer battery life.
Bob
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Re: Thunder Tiger VICTORIA yacht build - Ideal for non yachtsmen!
« Reply #31 on: July 24, 2007, 12:01:03 PM »

I think your right BobF,
 I may crowbar out my radio box again.....
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« Reply #32 on: July 29, 2007, 03:05:09 PM »

Battery life usually increases with experience - You learn to to set sail as it should be, and to leave it there until a change is actually needed.
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« Reply #33 on: September 22, 2007, 09:25:46 PM »

just started my vicky build in one of martins photo's it shows wooden support were keel is attached is this a good thing to add to the build advice please :embarrassed:
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« Reply #34 on: September 22, 2007, 10:05:45 PM »

sorry to be a pain but i want to paint the hull asked in the shop 1 person said rub it down first with p1000 wet n dry the other said wash it with white spirit what is best method? please
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« Reply #35 on: September 23, 2007, 12:44:10 AM »

Hi Link43mk,

I read on another website somewhere that the keel tube need a bit of extra bracing as all the forces of the mast and keel reply solely on the keel tube glue alone!

ABS can be a little tricky to paint but I've never had much problems. A good old rub down, make sure you get in those internal corners, wash and wipe down with meths, White Spirits (terps) MAY be too strong and melt the plastic, test first. Once the hull is prepaid, the trick is not to get finger prints on it or handle it too much as it will leave marks and cause static problems.
Don't prep and spray the same day.

Have a look at:
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=3815.0
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=1761.0
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=5819.0

Martin


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« Reply #36 on: September 23, 2007, 11:23:52 AM »

hi thanks for the tips i think i will install the keel supports pity thunder tiger did'nt think of it
paul
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« Reply #37 on: September 23, 2007, 12:01:48 PM »

Congrats on crossing to the dark side.
And on a great weekend. Sorry I couldn't make it.

As for boat issue
I usually get a good 8 hours out of 4 duracells, unless it is realy windy and servo working very hard then 6 hours.
but I have no idea of mAH for duracell to compare.

If the servo is binding then it might consume more juice.
Years ago, when I had access to the company's stores directory, the figures indicated that at the time rechargeable AAs were 600mAH and Duracell AAs were about 2000mAH.  This is from memory of a long time ago. 
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Re: Thunder Tiger VICTORIA yacht build - Ideal for non yachtsmen!
« Reply #38 on: September 23, 2007, 04:07:43 PM »

me again need to buy the sail servo mondat the one i have been looking at is the Hitec 765HB Sail Arm Servo will this be ok sorry for all the posts but i am a complete novice at this.
 PAUL
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Re: Thunder Tiger VICTORIA yacht build - Ideal for non yachtsmen!
« Reply #39 on: September 24, 2007, 09:00:58 AM »

me again need to buy the sail servo mondat the one i have been looking at is the Hitec 765HB Sail Arm Servo will this be ok sorry for all the posts but i am a complete novice at this.
 PAUL

Hi Paul

No it may not be suitable. It is powerful enough but I see it listed as having 90 degrees of travel.
You need 140 degrees + of movement.

Try this site
http://www.alshobbies.com/shop/cat.php?id=566&Desc=
The link will allow you to compare many servos.

I have also bought from Als. Fast reliable service.
No connection just a satisfied customer.

Enjoy your build.
and enjoy sailing

TT
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« Reply #40 on: September 24, 2007, 09:32:04 AM »

thanks for that tt i am going to get this one now Hitec HS 815BB yes  you are right als is a good shop only a couple of miles from me.
paul
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Re: Thunder Tiger VICTORIA yacht build - Ideal for non yachtsmen!
« Reply #41 on: September 25, 2007, 08:21:15 AM »

The 815BB is very big, and may not fit in the radio tray.
It is also heavy and more than twice as powerful as you will need.(25KG/cm torque at 6v)

Try a Futaba S3802, a bit oversized but it will sqeeze in with a bit of cutting.

The Futaba S3003 is a standard servo, but check als website for dimensions. These are the standard dimensions that the radio tray is made for. Futaba do a sail arm servo the same size.

If you are going to mod the radio tray as Martind did then the S3802 is more than powerful enough.

You only need 9kg/cm torque but 11kg is better.

Have fun
TT
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« Reply #42 on: September 25, 2007, 12:25:32 PM »

When fitting a more powerful sail servo bear the mounting strangth in mind.  You dont want it to pull itself out by its own roots.
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Re: Thunder Tiger VICTORIA yacht build - Ideal for non yachtsmen!
« Reply #43 on: September 25, 2007, 02:28:48 PM »

When fitting a more powerful sail servo bear the mounting strangth in mind.  You dont want it to pull itself out by its own roots.

This reminds me. I may have already mentioned. After a few weeks of use the radio tray did come adrift.  :(

All I knew was the boat would only go in circles  ::)

So score the hull lightly before you glue in teh radio tray to give it something to bite on and clean with a degreasant. :) ;)
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« Reply #44 on: October 02, 2007, 09:55:28 AM »

I've recently obtained one of these yacht kits and first impressions of contents and instructions look impressive.
Have any of you who have already got a Victoria felt the need to upgrade the supplied sails and if so where did you purchase them from ?

Terry.
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« Reply #45 on: October 02, 2007, 11:59:37 AM »

Hi Terry

Yes, I did upgrade the sails on my Victoria. Unfortunately for you and any others who may be interested, I bought mine from Brian Wiles, Apex Sails, but I'm afraid he lost his battle with cancer a couple of years ago. The only other one I know of who will make sails for you is Frank at Nylet. He made my three sets of sails for my R36R many moons ago, but I know he has made a set for a friend of mine for his Comtesse quite recently.

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« Reply #46 on: October 02, 2007, 12:25:20 PM »

Hi Danny,

Thanks for that. I believe my kit came from Brain's stock that was been sold on by his family. I know of a couple of sail makers and suppliers but it would much easier if I could just request a set of "Victoria" sails rather than having to quote dimensions etc. I'll see if anyone else has any info before delving into the kit. (got 2 scale boats to finish first).

Thanks again, Terry
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« Reply #47 on: October 16, 2007, 10:01:22 AM »

You could also try Andy Wright at www.windpowersails.8m.com He did a very nice set for my Saphir.
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« Reply #48 on: October 16, 2007, 12:52:16 PM »

Thanks for that Martin, looks good.

Terry.
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« Reply #49 on: October 18, 2007, 04:19:22 AM »

The Cirrus P-CS704/MG is a high torque (13kg cm at 4.8V) servo with a footprint about the same as a standard servo, though it is taller. It also weighs less than comparable offerings from Futaba or Hitec. Again, only 90 rotation but that can be simply overcome using a longer arm.
http://www.sussex-model-centre.co.uk/shopexd.asp?id=5644
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