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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought
« Reply #350 on: January 16, 2017, 10:54:03 PM »

Hi Ray


Glad you like her :-))



That occurred in 1917-18ish according to the same book. The picture is labelled as Victorious but the picture I have states Prince George in 1903 embossed on the card.
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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought
« Reply #351 on: January 16, 2017, 11:06:36 PM »

Oh, I see what you mean.  :embarrassed:

Thanks for clearing that up Nick - saves me having to search around again.

Still no further forward with the ship's crest though... {:-{

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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought
« Reply #352 on: January 16, 2017, 11:30:35 PM »

I'm afraid not,  I've still had no response from the RN Museum Library or The Kew Collection at the moment. The only one that comes close is the rose crest seen in my other thread in Warship R&D about ships crests.
The biggest issue I have at the moment is trying to decipher the strange identification marking on the turrets were a stripe or a roof painted section that extends at the front section of the turret?! The photos are very confusing seeming to show different variations.
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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought
« Reply #353 on: January 17, 2017, 09:44:29 AM »

I may be able to help you with the turret markings. With Victorian Battleships it was very common to have a coloured stipe at superstructure deck level. Sometimes this was red or blue or even black. There was a tendency to visually extend this line onto the sides and front of the turrets at the same level so from the side view there was a straight line along both turrets and superstructure.

From certain angles this can look a little odd.

Hope this may assist

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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought
« Reply #354 on: January 17, 2017, 04:41:59 PM »

Thanks Geoff


That explains what I'm seeing in some photos of her, by looks of things Prince George had a black stripe. :-))
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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought
« Reply #355 on: January 30, 2017, 10:50:13 AM »

Hi everyone


A bit of work over the past week whilst I decipher the plans and pictures. This was the item that stumped me back in 2014 but now after 18 months of research and seeing the HMS Repulse at the Mayhem weekend last year this item is now in progress.
The item was simply described as engine room hatches so I have drawn up a rough drawing (see below), see if you can see my mistake on drawing up to the actual pictures so far!
There are 12 engine room hatches to be made and at the moment you can see the dark recesses where they will sit over and the three support rails made from thin aluminium tube. There are all sorts of extra equipment that sits directly behind the engine room hatch box which include the engine room telegraph cable and fire fighting equipment. Nothing is stuck together yet and a bit of filler and tidying up is required but the mass hatch build (mhb) will start this Saturday. :}



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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought
« Reply #356 on: January 30, 2017, 09:14:50 PM »

I cannot see your mistake so far Nick. Keep up the good work  :-))
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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought
« Reply #357 on: January 30, 2017, 10:30:47 PM »

Thanks Ian  :-))


If you look at the drawing in the front view or the one on the right hand side you'll see that I accidentally added the support rail in profile in this view too when it should have appeared as three lines.
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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought
« Reply #358 on: February 04, 2017, 09:05:39 AM »

Hello Nick.

I'm mighty impressed with the research you are putting into this! I built 'Mars' according to what was visible in the Burt book and this area remained a mystery. I presume you have Admiralty plans to work to?

So far as I know, there is no surviving builder's model of a Majestic. If anyone knows to the contrary, please say!!!

However, there are models of various 'Duncans', including 'Russel' which was on display at the IWM at the time. Below is a snap looking down into the engine room area. There are hatches there, perhaps not quite the same layout that you are working to. Are those the same ones? Details in the 'Duncans' were generally very similar to the Majestics. I know the builders models don't always tell the truth, but in my experience they are a lot more reliable than re-drawn sketches in Janes or even, Burt.

Here's 'Russel':
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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought
« Reply #359 on: February 04, 2017, 11:17:38 AM »

Hello David


Glad you like the progress so far.
I have the Admiralty drawings but they are not so clear in black and white, and pictures of this area seem to be rare as hen's teeth! After seeing Andy's lovely Renown at the Mayhem weekend last year and some 'blown-up' images of Brian King's version I've managed to come up with what looks like the plans with some extras.
Thanks for the picture of Russell, every picture helps with this era of warship, I'm trying to get some finesse in my current projects which weren't so good in my previous 1/96 scale ship's.
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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought
« Reply #360 on: February 17, 2017, 04:01:59 PM »

Bit more deciphering of the Admiralty drawings but luckily Brian King's book came to the rescue ok2


I've made four of these little boxes with a 'chimney' and a shute- also known as an ash shute. Vessels of this era had to dispose of their ash from the fires that power the boilers. Not very eco-friendly but an essential task in Victorian times.


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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought
« Reply #361 on: February 17, 2017, 08:17:49 PM »

It will be interesting to see where these go on the ship.
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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought
« Reply #362 on: December 13, 2017, 09:20:51 AM »

Hi Nick
Any updates on this build its been a while  :embarrassed:

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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought
« Reply #363 on: December 13, 2017, 05:26:25 PM »

Ah well, she’s being started again in the new year after I return from Cyprus for my tri-yearly dose of war ops! I actually found some new pictures of her before I left showing the aft bridge structure so I might be continuing from the aft again!
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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought
« Reply #364 on: December 13, 2017, 11:17:20 PM »

That's great news Nick! I look forward to see some piccies of her coming along.
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Re: HMS Hannibal-Majestic class Pre-dreadnought
« Reply #365 on: December 14, 2017, 09:26:42 AM »

Hi Nick
That's good news I have been thinking about getting one of these for some time
and have been following your build for some time.

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