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HFM 590 yacht
« on: August 10, 2015, 08:25:04 am »

I've just bought a brand new HFM 590 yacht kit off of eBay, and I recall that some back that the builders of these little boats would replace all the rigging lines with different materials...my question is, what do I replace them with?


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Re: HFM 590 yacht
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2015, 09:09:22 am »

Mornin Rich
I use Spectra Braided Fishing line
50LB Breaking strain.
Should be plenty strong enough.
I always put a dab of nail polish on the knots
Superglue tends to wick along the braid stiffening it.


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Re: HFM 590 yacht
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2015, 09:15:17 am »

Hi,

The latest rigging line is called Spectra.

It is a lot thinner than the usual rigging line and is far stronger.

The same type of line is used a lot in rod fishing.

A word of warning: Use the new model of the bowsies and do not attempt to snap the line with your bare hands otherwise it will leave bad cuts.

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Re: HFM 590 yacht
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2015, 09:17:32 am »

Morning Ned...


Is that what you use on all the lines, mate? Both the lines that support the mast and the sail lines?




Morning Rickles,


Thanks for your advice as well...I didn't know there were any new style bowsies? Where would I get those from?
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Re: HFM 590 yacht
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2015, 09:26:46 am »

Hi U-33,

I live in Australia and get most of my spares from this website:

https://www.radioyachtsuppliesaustralia.com/index.php

The new bowsies are a lot easier to adjust when the fingers are wet or cold.

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Re: HFM 590 yacht
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2015, 09:31:35 am »

That's terrific, I'll go googling and see if I can locate them in the UK...thanks Rickles, much appreciated.
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Re: HFM 590 yacht
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2015, 09:35:34 am »

If you can't track down spectra, an alternative is Dacron line, from Sailsetc.com and others. 25kg should be more than enough.
I use it for both running rigging and fixed rigging. I have also used wooden homemade bowsies with Dacron, not sure how that would work with Spectra.
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Re: HFM 590 yacht
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2015, 09:40:57 am »

Thanks TT...I have a fishing tackle shop not far from me, so I'll pop in and have a look later today.


Thanks for the help...as always, much appreciated.
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Re: HFM 590 yacht
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2015, 09:41:36 am »

Rich,
Measure the supplied lengths of standing and running rigging lines
and let me know.
I have a 100 metre reel here and you are welcome to what you need.
Like Tiger Tiger I use the same for running and standing lines.
I've mislaid your address so PM me with the details of what you need.


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Re: HFM 590 yacht
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2015, 09:43:25 am »

Ned, you are a true star, sir...the kit should be here tomorrow (with a bit of luck) so I'll measure what's what and get back to you. Thanks mate...
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Re: HFM 590 yacht
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2015, 10:47:48 am »

When measuring remember to add about 10cm  (5cm for each end) to every length for knotting.


If your tackle shop does not have Spectra, the key thing to remember is that the line used should have no stretch, and not shorten when wet.
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Re: HFM 590 yacht
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2015, 11:14:06 am »

When measuring remember to add about 10cm  (5cm for each end) to every length for knotting.


If your tackle shop does not have Spectra, the key thing to remember is that the line used should have no stretch, and not shorten when wet.


TT...that's damn good thinking, I wouldn't have thought of allowing extra for knots, etc.

Are there any other modifications I should be considering before I commence building? I'm not going to be racing the thing, so I have no class rules/regulations to worry about, it's just going to be a fun boat to enable me to pop down the lake for the odd hour's sailing whenever the fancy takes me.


I have bought these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400667425440 from eBay as I remember reading of yacht builders using them

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Re: HFM 590 yacht
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2015, 12:04:37 pm »

As they are for sea fishing, they should be plenty strong enough for standing rigging.
If they are for the ends of running rigging, just make sure that the clip at the end can fully close to stop whatever it holds from hopping off. A tweak with pliers will fix those that don't.
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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2015, 12:06:04 pm »

Thanks TT...much appreciated.
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« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2015, 03:36:23 pm »

Hi,

I am not sure what size your yacht is but I use Spectra on a 50 inch racing Marblehead.

No snapped lines at all.

It comes in a couple of colours so I have a yellow for all the essential rigging and green for the rest.

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« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2015, 03:49:21 pm »

Less than half a Marble head at 590mm
Almost 2feet in old money.
Rich, fraid my dyneema is green so no two tone
rigging for you.
It's 50lb breaking strain so no probe on a little un.

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« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2015, 05:05:25 pm »

Colour is totally immaterial, Ned..I don't mind what colour it is. Green....hmm, doesn't match my eyes though.  ;D
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« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2015, 06:23:46 pm »

Nice Yacht, you will be well chuffed with it. They sail well and look good to boot. Don't, however, drop it on the road and break the keel bulb off on a glorious July morning, on the way to the pond..cos then its stuffed! So in answer to your 'what upgrades' question..I would extend the steel re-enforcing wire into the keel weight before sandwiching the two keel bulbs together, wont ruin your sailing then :-))
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« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2015, 07:28:25 pm »

Thanks for that, Skip...I'll do that.


I take it that you tried dropping a 590, then? You are a silly boy...what are you?
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« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2015, 08:33:24 pm »

The gooseneck (technical term) on these yachts is just a piece of tube, a bent piece of wire, and some thread to tie it all together...is there a modification, does anyone know?
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« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2015, 01:34:55 am »

I can't quite picture this. When you say 'some thread to tie it all together', do you mean a line that pulls the boom towards the mast. That is from about 1/3 the way out along the boom and attached to the mast below the gooseneck (the gimble like affair that attaches the boom to the mast)?


Can you post a photo?
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« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2015, 04:43:33 am »

Hi,

Attached are two diagrams.

As Tigertiger states please post a photo and we can help from there.

The first photo is a gooseneck, the bit that holds the boom to the mast.

The fitting below the boom is the kicking strap, although this is a metal version it can be done with rigging cord.

As with full size yachts it depends how much money you are prepared to invest.

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« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2015, 07:49:58 am »

Scanned copy of the gooseneck...very basic?
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« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2015, 09:12:07 am »

Thanks for that, Skip...I'll do that.


I take it that you tried dropping a 590, then? You are a silly boy...what are you?

I was exploring all parameters of operation of the model %)
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« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2015, 09:14:44 am »

Hi all,

A gooseneck can be made in many different ways.

Two more pictures for you.

1/ Made of solid brass for a 1950 style restoration Marblehead

2/ An early home made type

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