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Re: Tid Tug 164 Build Models By Design...The BIG UN
« Reply #50 on: January 17, 2017, 06:30:48 PM »

Pic of the Port/stbd lights on the plan clearly showing the front light board







Now unless this was a war requirement to partly sheild the lights...lord knows why it was there


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Re: Tid Tug 164 Build Models By Design...The BIG UN
« Reply #51 on: January 17, 2017, 07:18:30 PM »

Dave,
When you google Tid Tugs and go to images the light restrictor isnt there on the full size vessels.


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Re: Tid Tug 164 Build Models By Design...The BIG UN
« Reply #52 on: January 17, 2017, 07:36:01 PM »

Hi there

I am sure Bryan Young gave a description of why some vessels are fitted with navigation light restrictors and some aren't.  Also when the navigation lights went over to all black backboard from green and red backboards - Bryan is the man to tell us.

Stavros you are making a canny good job of this model :-)

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« Reply #53 on: January 17, 2017, 08:17:49 PM »

Well thats one hell of a compliment THANKS John




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Re: Tid Tug 164 Build Models By Design...The BIG UN
« Reply #54 on: January 18, 2017, 08:24:00 PM »

Hi Davros, as usual you are making a brilliant job. As to the light box restricter, have looked at some of my early pics in my collection and they are there. They were brought in a long time ago to stop over spill of light from a head on or near head on aspect causing confusion. The black paint came in about 1976, plus the rules on the light restriction board was tighten up with the change of colour and also the requirement to have separate back up electric lights. Which look like two lamps vertically, one mains the other 12volts.
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« Reply #55 on: January 18, 2017, 08:29:06 PM »

Dont know what happened there all I did was to copy and paste and it went muts.

Thanks to Dodes for his explanation and also to Bryan Young for his


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Re: Tid Tug 164 Build Models By Design...The BIG UN
« Reply #56 on: January 18, 2017, 08:30:31 PM »


Using one of them modern things Dave  ???    {-)     {-)

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« Reply #57 on: January 26, 2017, 11:18:29 PM »

Right a bit of an update on this build.........A couple of the deck vents have been built to be used as plugs so they can be cast in resin....main reason for this is there are 14 of the little blighters on the Tid all down the sides of the hull.They will be used to make rubber moulds ready for the resin casting,Also a technical drawing was made in 1/12th scale of the rather large  cowl vents .


Now a rather large confession here...not knowing a thing about making rudder moulds let alone my skills are simply not good enough to make some cowl vents of that size I simply asked a god friend of mine HOW do it do this and what do I need to get to make the rubber moulds etc etc....his ONLY answer to me was ...send the vents and a drawing up to me and ill make you the moulds and you can make the resin bits...............That Friend was Neil Howard Pritchard no less,to say I was gosmacked was an understatement.......Obviously he isn't on Mayhem no more BUT he has promised me to post on my build on the other forum of how he has done them so I will with his Permission transfer the knowledge to here




NEIL can I publically THANK YOU for this




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Re: Tid Tug 164 Build Models By Design...The BIG UN
« Reply #58 on: January 27, 2017, 12:12:20 AM »


Hello Dave, neil has just sent me these 3 pics of the almost finished vents for you. He can't find your email address.


He has taken more shots of how he did them as they are hand carved from obeche but he took them on his phone and he's just told me they won't download for some reason so has just taken these on his camera of the almost finished vents.


Won't tell you on here what he said lol, but he's had a bit of a tragedy over the past couple of days so was a little the worse for beer.


The photos might be a bit blurry, he said.


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« Reply #59 on: January 28, 2017, 11:18:14 PM »

Right then onwards and upwards as they say...Today's tasks were pretty time consuming to say the least and made me really think what I was up to.


First job was to do some work on the lathe to true it up and thanks to a gent form Bethesda who just was just going for a walk past my house made that job a doddle....Thanks Billy.


With the lathe running true it was time for Dave to do some turning....What do I know about this subject...well Ill be honest with you all....Naff all.....I honestly ain't got a clue what I am doing so it was rather trial and error,trust me on this.
I managed to turn 4 small pulleys for the Roller fairleads and believe you me they ain't to bad...well I would say that !!!


These were drilled and then the frame was made up with some brass strip....I only manged one as I ran out ...don't ask


 


One of the completed rollers





Next on the list of many jobs was the towing hook...........I decided to scrap the Mobile Marines one that I has(SORRY BRIAN) and canabalise it as I wanted a hook that not only went from side to side but up and down as well.
1st little problem with this was the gimbal on the one I had was to big by 5mm so into the lathe it went and was turned down...the actual hook was filed out to gain a bigger throat,new side cheecks were made and the actual hook bracket was made and silver soldered and 2 bolts were also soldered so it could be attatched to the superstrucre ...there is of course a spreader plate inside the superstructre.

















There was one little job that I have been putting off as I had not got a clue how to do it till today....Ah ha I said Lathe,this was the cap on the Galley stove,it needed a Chinaman's hat on it so this was duly turned down and made.














The observant amongst us will notice that at the moment that there are no holes to allow the smoke to get out of the chinamans hat  this will be rectified tomorrow.


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« Reply #60 on: January 29, 2017, 12:39:17 PM »


That really is some nice engineering young man.    :-))

Watching this with great interest.

Cheers


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Re: Tid Tug 164 Build Models By Design...The BIG UN
« Reply #61 on: January 29, 2017, 08:05:35 PM »

That all looks pretty good to me as well.

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« Reply #62 on: January 29, 2017, 08:46:23 PM »

Right Neil has sent me these pics of the process to make the rubber moulds that will enable me to cast these Vents out of resin.

















The cowl vent were made out of Obeche wood and hand carved...The 2 plastic card Gnv vents were made by myself and these are the moulds to make the rubber moulds ready for casting







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Re: Tid Tug 164 Build Models By Design...The BIG UN
« Reply #63 on: January 29, 2017, 09:56:37 PM »


Hi Stavros, is this big in be ready for this years Wicksteed!, am looking forward to seeing it, it looks brilliant so far.
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« Reply #64 on: January 29, 2017, 10:10:27 PM »

Hi YES it will DEFINATLY be ready for Wikki by hook or by crook....lets put is another way....it will be there on the water whether it has been painted or not.I am seriously thinking of buying an inflatable and towing SHIPMATE 60 around the lake,BUT PLEASE dont tell him ....mums the word wink wink etc




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« Reply #65 on: January 30, 2017, 09:40:48 AM »

This is now the state of play regarding the moulds for the vents.
The 1st half of the mould has been poured with the rubber compound to actually make the moulds and all the plastascene  has been removed........as soon as Neil has tydied up the moulds he is sending them doen to me so I cna start to make the vents .....obviously I am going to need to make 2 of each of the cowl vents and a total of 14 of the GNV ones.....




Prior to the removal of the plasctecene


 


Large cowl vent,you will see it is not full lenght...the bottom of the vent has a recess which a 24mm copper pipe wiill fit making ti full length...the same will happen to the small cowl vents but this will be qa 12mmm copper pipe














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« Reply #66 on: January 30, 2017, 12:59:46 PM »

Blimey Stav, nice work coming along well.......now I don't have to catch it do I  {:-{
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« Reply #67 on: January 30, 2017, 03:19:39 PM »


Dave, will you please make contact with neil on the RCMB forum please with your postal address as the moulds are finished and channels for resin flow are cut and ready to post off to you.


Thank you,


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« Reply #68 on: January 30, 2017, 03:40:11 PM »

Done


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« Reply #69 on: January 30, 2017, 03:43:12 PM »

Loving both the work, and the size of this beast. You're giving me plenty of ideas for a couple of items I'm going to build for a future project. :-))
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« Reply #70 on: January 30, 2017, 04:00:30 PM »

We are going to need a bigger pond for Mayhem at this rate  {-) {-) {-) {-)
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« Reply #71 on: January 30, 2017, 04:08:51 PM »

We'll just knock though to the big lake :D
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« Reply #72 on: January 30, 2017, 04:11:37 PM »

Blimey Stav, nice work coming along well.......now I don't have to catch it do I  {:-{






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« Reply #73 on: February 05, 2017, 05:19:03 PM »

Well I decided to do the filler work on the bulwarks of the hull today so I can start to put in all the extra strengtheners that are needed.


As it is a grp hull these need to be smoothed out so you don't see the weave of the glass fibre,this is a tediuos and horrible job,first I rubbed them down with 80 grit paper dry to key the grp,then some filler was applied sparingly then rubbed down again with 80 grit then finishing off wiht 180.




This is what I had to fill








The screws were removed along the inside of the superstructure coamings





This is the filler I use,along with easy light and top stop....very easy to sand





Correct amount of Hardener is really important as this stuff goes off like stink even in a cold workshop





Mixed filler





filler applied











I then primed with a Halfords etch primer













These are the moulds for the vents ready to be cast when I get the resin










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« Reply #74 on: February 05, 2017, 06:13:25 PM »


lovely finish on the inside of the bulwarks Stavros. it shows that you work on motor bodies and paint.


A job to be proud of.


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