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« Reply #75 on: December 02, 2020, 10:21:39 am »

And mine. Was a bit surprised because I'd read it was probably going to be towards the end of the week due to deciding to delay.


I'd already read most of it online!

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« Reply #76 on: December 02, 2020, 11:27:16 am »

No, not had mine yet.

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« Reply #77 on: December 02, 2020, 01:43:39 pm »

Mine arrived on Monday
Maybe contributors to the mag get special treatment!

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« Reply #78 on: December 02, 2020, 01:46:50 pm »

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Maybe contributors to the mag get special treatment!

Just postal delays, it can be erratic depending on where you are. Mine arrived this morning.

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« Reply #79 on: December 02, 2020, 03:04:15 pm »

Hi all mine arrived today I see it is labelled Dec/Jan?  Do we lose a month?  Would not this month have been the 70th. anniversary of the magazine?
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« Reply #80 on: December 02, 2020, 03:07:35 pm »


Hi all mine arrived today I see it is labelled Dec/Jan?  Do we lose a month?  Would not this month have been the 70th. anniversary of the magazine?
Roy

My reply earlier in this thread:
Simple answer, No,
From Model Boats magazine forum, it explains all:
https://www.modelboats.co.uk/forums/postings.asp?th=169228
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« Reply #81 on: December 02, 2020, 03:25:40 pm »

Hi thanks for that.  I note further down the thread that there was reference to 13 issues one year.  I remember John Cundell saying that the publishers wanted to go as per the Model Engineering magazine which is fortnightly or was then and publish Model Boats every 4 weeks.  So getting an extra magazine for no extra cost apart from the production. 
It did not go down well at all!
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« Reply #82 on: December 02, 2020, 03:47:57 pm »

Roy

I am not sure if you are confused. Model Boats has been 13 issues for many years. 12 + the special. Subscriptions are still for 13 issues if you read the "about the magazine" section.

https://mb.secureorder.co.uk/modb/bar/
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« Reply #83 on: December 02, 2020, 04:45:22 pm »

Roy

I am not sure if you are confused. Model Boats has been 13 issues for many years. 12 + the special. Subscriptions are still for 13 issues if you read the "about the magazine" section.

https://mb.secureorder.co.uk/modb/bar/


Hi
My understanding of it is that from 2021 it will only be 12 issues, It has not been updated in many places that it will only be 12 Not 13 . In the Magazine they have dropped all reference to 13 issues, however on the website in 1 line it says 12 and then another 13.. As as been said it is a trying period and maybe they will get things updated at some point.

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« Reply #84 on: December 02, 2020, 04:49:08 pm »

My reply earlier in this thread:
Simple answer, No,
From Model Boats magazine forum, it explains all:
https://www.modelboats.co.uk/forums/postings.asp?th=169228


I would say yes as the next issue will be dated February, The December / January is just 1 when it should be 2. But I do realise there have been issues and do not have any problem with that, it is Lack of Communication to Subscribers which is wrong.

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« Reply #85 on: December 02, 2020, 05:01:01 pm »

Hi Tug I am thinking of the time when there were 13 issues I count the 12 monthly ones as the main ones with the Winter or Spring as extras.
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« Reply #86 on: December 03, 2020, 02:33:09 pm »

My copy arrived this morning.  :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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« Reply #87 on: December 03, 2020, 04:24:10 pm »

One of the reasons i don't buy it now never much in it for me now.
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« Reply #88 on: December 03, 2020, 06:24:05 pm »

One of the reasons i don't buy it now never much in it for me now.
               Regards Howard.

How do you know if you never look at it?  Or are you a WH Smith browser who reads some of it and then puts it back?  %% %%

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« Reply #89 on: December 03, 2020, 06:25:38 pm »

Sorry to hear you feel that way Howard. Maybe if you had a wider interest in the hobby you would feel differently.

A national magazine would not be viable in just catering to limited interests, it has to cover a broad range of subjects.

Like many people on here I have an interest in many areas of model boating. I scratch build (in the old sense), I build kits, my recent models have included Fairey fast boats using brushless motors while my current project is a self researched 1903 liner model with a very conventional brushed motor setup. I don't indulge in 3D printing or CAD based construction myself but I do enjoy reading about it and seeing what people can achieve with it.

Obviously, like most people I have my own favourite areas of the hobby but it is always enlightening to see what other people are up to and often ideas and techniques in one area of the hobby can be applicable to others.

One of the best things about our shared hobby is its broad scope and the way we can appreciate what others are doing in areas we may not be familiar with.

Model Boats magazine has to reflect all this as best it can and usually I find more than enough to justify reading it. You learn something new every time.

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« Reply #90 on: December 03, 2020, 06:58:30 pm »

Hello Greg and Colin,
Yes i used to get in posted for years often taking nights to read it but yes the lest two or three I bought from WH Smiths but all three time I had  read it within five mins very very little of interest to me so don't even bother looking now I often reread some of my old mags must be me and what I enjoy reading bit like on here sometime ago you could send all night going though and reading the threads but now i often find there's only half a dozen new posts to read Colin may be able to say about this site and how many now get or buy model boats mag.
                   Regards Howard.     
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« Reply #91 on: December 03, 2020, 07:13:18 pm »

Fair enough Howard, I appreciate you have your own interests but things move on and the topics in the magazine and on the model boating forums tend to reflect current areas of interest. I'm sorry that you prefer the older stuff exclusively but I respect your personal view.

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« Reply #92 on: December 03, 2020, 07:48:48 pm »

How do you know if you never look at it?  Or are you a WH Smith browser who reads some of it and then puts it back?  %% %%

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It seems to me that it is perfectly reasonable to look before you buy to see if there is anything interesting. Even an article title on the title page doesn't tell you whether the article is of any interest. How else are you supposed to know?

Don't you try on a pair of shoes to see if they look good and fit you before you buy? Doesn't your partner try on clothes to see if she likes the look of them before deciding whether nor not to buy? If you don't buy them then you put them back on the shelf or return the mail order. Used/worn by you but still sold as new to somebody else. Exactly the same.  :-)) %% :-))
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« Reply #93 on: December 03, 2020, 07:51:40 pm »

Thank you Colin,
 the sad thing is like model shops we have to admit model boat making is drying out kids these days are not interested only a few take it up not like us who cut our teeth on the old 2bob Airfix in a plastic bag with the card wrap over card instructions where my pocket money went every week but as you say the world has moved on just this week i think four great traders have shut up shop how many this year alone I'm  just so pleased to have about twice as many kits  or hull plus boxes of bits  and fitting i build up over the last thirty years to see me though i feel so sad children  have never enjoyed what we have in models that we made our self's even it sometimes its was just a kit or should i say a Hull and a box of fittings you still had to make and do a lot I cant see the fun in a computer game my self, or knocking a little white ball around a field or standing freezing getting soaked watching football or peeing up a toilet wall in a pub not wanting to upset anyone just my thoughts and views.
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« Reply #94 on: December 03, 2020, 08:24:55 pm »

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It seems to me that it is perfectly reasonable to look before you buy if there is often nothing that you want to read.

Yes, from the occasional reader point of view but the days of selling magazines on this basis have essentially passed. The principle now is that if you take out a subscription then on balance the contents of any average issue will be sufficient to justify the expense. Some issues will be more than interesting than others but that was always the case and the trade off is that a subscription is usually cheaper then buying individual issues.

It is of course a personal choice but if you pick and choose then don't be surprised if the overall sales then make the economics unviable and then you have no magazine at all.

Your choice!

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« Reply #95 on: December 03, 2020, 08:43:05 pm »

Colin

I do hear what you are saying but this applies to so much in life. A few are very evangelical about what matters to them (very clearly true here) but few others will stop shopping online to save the local High Street, few will stop flying to a holiday to save the planet, few will stop buying more clothes than they wear out to reduce waste, few will turn the heating down and wear an extra jumper to cut pollution etc etc etc.

I realise that subscriptions benefit the publisher and help sustain the magazine but at nearly 50 they are hardly cheap (by my standards) if there is a really interesting article in only half the issues.

Now the 15 for a year digital offer that they recently sent me is a whole different ball game.   :-))    :-)    :-))

If only the free plan articles were written so as to recognise that some readers don't get the free plan and only get information from the article. The Palex 6 article in October, for example, only gave any indication of size on the plan with nothing in the article.This is common & will be recognised by any digital subscription reader.
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« Reply #96 on: December 03, 2020, 11:08:55 pm »

All fair points and evertyone sees things differently and acts accordingly.

I have a wide interest in model boating and therefore quite a lot of the content is of interest to me even if I don't build models in those particulat areas.

Those people who have more specialised interests may well tale a different view. But of course a magazine of this type has to at least try to cover as many areas as possible but that has always been the case.

You can't please all of the people all of the time as they say!

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« Reply #97 on: December 04, 2020, 08:04:45 am »

Bonjour de France ,


        I have not yet received the MB of the month of november. However, I received 2 copies of MB in september and october .


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« Reply #98 on: December 04, 2020, 09:00:38 am »

After several years of disillusion with the model boat mags, I have just received my first copy of MB. I have only taken a 6 month subscription and will see how it goes.
I was quite impressed with this issue - a decent plan and some interesting articles. Still too much of the mag taken up by one contributors detailed build of a warship for my taste, but I see from a comment by the editor she may have realised these articles take up too much space. We will see. It still only provided a couple of hours reading though Howard.


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« Reply #99 on: December 04, 2020, 09:15:48 am »

I would imagine that they can only print what had been submitted.
Personally I enjoy the warship article.
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