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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #550 on: January 11, 2020, 12:22:06 AM »

As I pass midnight and roll into my 62nd year on planet Earth  :-)


This is how I believe the anchor should look





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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #551 on: January 11, 2020, 01:00:18 AM »

My late father used to have a flatmate called "Peter Bruce" who apparently used to play with little "toy anchors" like this in a fish tank in their flat while my dad was out working properly.  ...wonder what ever came of that in terms of anchor designs?
...nice work.
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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #552 on: January 11, 2020, 08:41:36 AM »

Looking at photo 023 in Adrian's "anchor" folder, that is a a very good scratch built version.
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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #553 on: January 11, 2020, 08:55:49 AM »


Thank you Rich

Looking at photo 023 in Adrian's "anchor" folder, that is a a very good scratch built version.
Thank you Alan

Adrian's anchor in the kit misses the triangular shape of the pointed part, doesn't flare outwards after the deck holder and doesn't have the corner parts. Its a simple kite shape so I deliberately copied actual photos from JH in Scarborough rather than the Speedline one.


The many hours scratch building would be wasted by copying someone else's work if its not accurate or not of the version you are making.

Anchor gallery for 13-15 https://techno.smugmug.com/Shannon/13-15-anchor/n-RCNLVf/
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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #554 on: January 11, 2020, 09:00:18 AM »

My late father used to have a flatmate called "Peter Bruce" who apparently used to play with little "toy anchors" like this in a fish tank in their flat while my dad was out working properly.  ...wonder what ever came of that in terms of anchor designs?
...nice work.
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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #555 on: January 11, 2020, 09:15:59 AM »

Excuse the paint on my hands  {-) 
Ole Bodker has done a terrific paint job on his Speedline that looks exactly like galvanising for which I presume he's used stippling. I hope to quiz him over it.

Ole's Speedline





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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #556 on: January 11, 2020, 04:24:12 PM »

Filled and primed again






I'm now working on the chain locker too


12mm brass washer and some brass tube









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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #557 on: January 11, 2020, 05:26:52 PM »

I hope you are going to make casts of all these parts before you finally fix them to the boat.
It will save you a lot of time when you start making kits to sell.
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« Reply #558 on: January 11, 2020, 06:28:20 PM »

I thought about that for about 2 mins  {-)   Four years today to my state pension :party time:
I gave up a very well paid job so I could build my boats and live the retired life style, any time spent not doing the things I want to is really counter productive and would not make as much as I could at work
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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #559 on: January 12, 2020, 11:18:23 AM »

Slow start today but hope to finish these


The Chain locker just needs the hinge adding to the far side before priming.
It's beyond me to make such a tiny wing nut so this will have to do.



This is the start of the Anchor.... I'm going to call it a Shoe. It fits the triangular nose of the anchor exactly and when the sides are added it holds the anchor above the deck not on it.


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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #560 on: January 12, 2020, 09:10:39 PM »

Lots of ups and downs but got there














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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #561 on: January 12, 2020, 09:54:36 PM »

The rest ...








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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #562 on: January 13, 2020, 12:25:27 PM »

Very good metalwork there. It's difficult to know the exact size of some of the parts however you say that it is too hard to make the wing nut in this scale. Have you tried the simple method using an aluminium tube section crimped round the bolt, the wings can then be filed to shape. The photo shows a crude version I tried with a 2mm threaded rod, took around 5 minutes, with your skills you could make a better job.

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« Reply #563 on: January 13, 2020, 12:32:03 PM »

Thank you Jim.
That's a useful idea  :-)


However meanwhile Kim has linked me to a site in America that sells small parts at a fair price except for the $16 shipping. My order would fit on a 5p piece  {-)
https://model-motorcars.myshopify.com/collections/small-parts-hardware/products/wing-nut-brass-5-8-mm-wn58


I could just swap this out or as Kim suggested cut a nut off drill and tap it  :-))
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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #564 on: January 13, 2020, 02:41:15 PM »

Now the primer is on I can see the slight fettling required but this is also the stage with the brass and plasticard covered that from here on people ask where did you buy that  {-)





I've started on the Anchor securing bracket











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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #566 on: January 15, 2020, 12:36:58 AM »

Not a lot today.
I've painted the anchor securing bracket and started making the 8 bases for the cleats





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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #567 on: January 15, 2020, 05:39:37 PM »

Hi Andy,
Excellent work been watching your build with great interest, I have a Speedline Shannon kit 1/12 scale that I hope to start at some point . where do you get the scale plans from?

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« Reply #568 on: January 15, 2020, 05:42:31 PM »

Hi Colin
Black Market or eBay.
There is still a plan on the Speedline drop box but it needs printing off, however it only shows port side and birds eye view no front and rear elevation.


EDIT I lied it does show stern view but plan view has much missing in detail.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/02lnanyv5pc8cfu/AADr2XDwXKUR95T3SWwl8zFua/Plans?dl=0&preview=12th+scale+Port%2C+plan+and+rear+view.jpg&subfolder_nav_tracking=1
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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #569 on: January 15, 2020, 05:50:44 PM »

The raised deck platforms for the cleats I am making from 3mm thick paxolin.
5" sander set to an angle that achieves an aesthetic shape.


Need to temporary fix the fenders to find the locations.



I made one template and then make the rest to match





3 more to fit then the deck can be primed again





It also occurred to me that a single screw through each could help hold the deck on
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« Reply #570 on: January 15, 2020, 11:23:13 PM »

This is certainly worthwhile in addition to the nuts on the stanchions.
The screw will be concealed by the push fit cleats.
I will also not need to tape the deck on for sailing during testing


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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #571 on: January 16, 2020, 01:11:22 PM »

At the stern I already have alloy angle in place for the railings so just 6 more to fit for the fixing points.








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« Reply #572 on: January 16, 2020, 08:15:26 PM »

So today the 8 cleats mounts are now fitted and screws through to secure the deck.The Tamiya primer will blend back in very easily.
Iíve also removed a lot of material from the battery tray.
Also taken a bit off the leading edge of the anchor bed.


Now unless Arno has posted those cleats to me  {-)
I have eight to make plus four stag horn bollards


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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #573 on: January 17, 2020, 09:42:37 PM »

I've decide to use brass for the cleats and I started by making one baseplate as a drilling template for the eight.



Template used to drill each mounting and I'm using 2.5mm rod for these.












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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #574 on: January 17, 2020, 10:54:14 PM »

The question was just raised regarding these cleats.
Cleat is the correct title but by design it can also be used as a fairlead.
This is identified in the Shannon RNLI handbook


Thank you JH @ 13-15  :-))
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