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Re: Our First Build - Billings Banckert 516
« Reply #100 on: July 20, 2020, 09:00:47 pm »

Phil 22 - I did manage to get my Banckert on the River Thames last week when the rowers were all having a breather.
It has a Monoperm motor and I thought I would try it with a 6v lead acid brick first of all, the biggest one I could squeeze through the hatch space was only 1.3 Amp Hr but I thought if necessary I could parallel two of them.I could squeeze in a 7.2v nicad pack but the brick is heavier and it needs all the ballast it can get. There is a load of lead under the fore deck, a couple of M16x200 steel bolts under the aft hatch  and a couple of fishing weights right at the stern, and it still floats with about 5mm of boot topping out of the water.
Scale speed is fine with 6v so I will stick with that for now, might want a bit more oomph if i start towing things. At full speed the prop tends to push the stern up and the bow down, but nothing too alarming. Had a bit of trouble with the steering linkages , I think the grease in the rudder stock tubes had gone hard after all these years, but it freed up eventually. Steering ahead is quite sensitive, but awful when going astern - I think it might be the hull form - and it makes it worse if you try full rudder. The two rudders  almost close onto each other so it is like pushing a flat plate through the water.
Anyway, all went well, but I had to take it out because motor cruisers started to turn up and their bow waves are like miniature tsunamis for a 1:48 boat.
Couple of photos attached.
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Re: Our First Build - Billings Banckert 516
« Reply #101 on: July 20, 2020, 09:44:50 pm »

Looks good on the water - try Hinksey park on a Thursday afternoon, no motor cruisers there!
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Re: Our First Build - Billings Banckert 516
« Reply #102 on: July 22, 2020, 04:36:08 pm »


 Fantastic!   :-))
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Re: Our First Build - Billings Banckert 516
« Reply #103 on: July 25, 2020, 03:52:37 pm »

Hi All,

@SteveH: She looks great on the water, you've set a high bar indeed. Really happy to see some shots, thanks too for the helpful insights. We've read on a few threads that the stock rudders aren't the best. Will need a lot more reading up on the topic.

I've been looking at potential ballast candidates in my local DIY stores here in Tokyo. From your info sounds like we'll need a lot. Is ballast secured with any type of fixing or bond? Seen people online pouring epoxy over stainless nuts deep in the hull, this looks absolute and wondered if it's a usual approach...

Thanks!!
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Re: Our First Build - Billings Banckert 516
« Reply #104 on: September 23, 2020, 10:41:32 am »

Progress has been very slow due to ongoing tendonitis. It's really frustrating, then again it's about the journey and not the finishing. So I keep telling myself.....

Here are some updates from when I was in better form.

The last of the laser cut parts, first coat of primer.



It may be useful for future builders to know, that these are the only parts in the fittings kit that are functional. Everything else is a detail.



Repurposed the lamp shades as bases for the rigging. These will provide better contacts than only the brass wire itself going into the ply.



Most of the boat has not been fitted together yet, so access is good. Screws will hold the funnel to the sleeper and that to the bridge.











The plan is to do the upper decks in green. To get crisp edges, we cut these overlays from 0.8mm plasticard to get primed and painted.









Thanks for looking.
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Re: Our First Build - Billings Banckert 516
« Reply #105 on: September 23, 2020, 12:02:35 pm »

Very neat looking work.  :-))
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Re: Our First Build - Billings Banckert 516
« Reply #106 on: November 07, 2020, 04:34:32 am »

Thanks for the kind comment @dougal99

Well it has been a busy past few weeks. We moved home and have almost unpacked everything.   

Some light work has been completed, mostly with painting and a few details. The amount of expansion in the wooden decking is surprising as the weather has turned colder. Across the beam up to 3mm, so before permanent fitting it'll need more attention.

The superstructure details have received a starter coat of metal primer. These will go dark gun-metal later.




The plasticard deck inserts were undercoated and painted. Blue looked better than the green we'd picked out for the bridge and sleeper.






The inserts all need glueing in position. That'll be done before the handrails go in.














The towing gear detailing is now completed, this was particularly fun to do. It helped to make a small hole to feed the thread into before winding. The 'ropes' have been superglued in a couple of spots so are now fixed in position.














Eye-hooks have been added to join the handrails to the base of the stairs.







Thanks for looking. Have nice weekend all.
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Re: Our First Build - Billings Banckert 516
« Reply #107 on: November 07, 2020, 08:08:33 am »

I love the brass work Phil, I think you've done a fantastic job on that, in fact the whole thing looks great
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Re: Our First Build - Billings Banckert 516
« Reply #108 on: November 07, 2020, 08:05:00 pm »

Phil, why did you go for wooden decks? none of the photos I have seen of the actual tug looked like wood planking to me, and I think it would be unusual on a working vessel of this age and type. It's all looking very good, I must say. Are you going to put an inflatable or RIB tender on yours? I had a few goes at making one but gave up and bought a 3D printed one from Mastman, and plonked it on a bit of framing on the sloping bit just aft of the ensign staff  - looks reasonably like the one in the "in service" photos.
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Re: Our First Build - Billings Banckert 516
« Reply #109 on: November 08, 2020, 12:06:30 pm »

Cheers @davejo90 and SteveH for the comments. Yeah, the idea to add a wooden deck is simply because it's how we want to build the boat. I did have a try at putting together a small platform for an inflatable though this was after the vents were made so it looked out of place. Have you done anymore detailing on your Banckert Steve? Add any shots here if you'd like anytime ;)

Having searched on google.nl then using Chrome's translate page option, I've found some great build threads here: https://www.modelbouwforum.nl/
Searches also led to some interesting shots of the Steenbank in Belgian Navy livery at marinetraffic.com


Credit: https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:107588/mmsi:205216000/imo:5339743/vessel:STEENBANK

Next job here is to paint the brasswork.
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Re: Our First Build - Billings Banckert 516
« Reply #110 on: November 30, 2020, 05:50:11 am »

Hi All,

The majority of the brasswork has now been painted and fitted. The assembly of the superstructure came together in an afternoon as is almost complete. For the mast, there are safely rails, the radar, radar guard and some rigging to do in the next few days. 















It'll be the radio gear installation through winter then painting the hull in spring when the weather gets warmer =)
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Re: Our First Build - Billings Banckert 516
« Reply #111 on: December 09, 2020, 06:15:19 am »

With a glass of red close by for those brief stops when waiting for the superglue to bite. The Banckert's simple rigging was another enjoyable stage of the build. The lines themselves are 0.5mm elastic picked up from a sewing shop. Glued under mild tension, the hope is they'll all stay taut.



There's an ensign staff and material flag provided with the kit. Wondering what methods are used by members to:

- stop these types of flags from fraying when cutting?
- how to shape them into a wave?
- how to best attach them to staffs (would the striped portion remain or not)?

Any help is welcome.

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Re: Our First Build - Billings Banckert 516
« Reply #112 on: March 23, 2021, 09:03:35 am »


Absolutely essential in all good toolkits! Kindly donated by my GF, it's great for those fine sanding tasks.



This was the method taken with the flag:

- Masked up the material leaving 1mm showing all round
- Applied superglue to the unmasked area to seal it. This changes the colour slightly (becomes a shade lighter)
- The glue provides the rigidity to then cut the flag out from the surround
- Added a spot of glue at the end of each tab. Glued it to the staff at these points and let dry
- Wrapped the flag around the staff then glued to fix










All rails have now been epoxied to the deck section.



The gaps in the rails received some Tamiya putty and were sanded into shape.



Another portion of the deck under the superstructure was removed to give better access to the battery later on.
Some combing will be applied here as a margin.



The lifebelts received a coat of orange, before getting masked to apply a coat of white.
Used small shaped strips of plastic to act as a clamp to affix them to the railings.







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Re: Our First Build - Billings Banckert 516
« Reply #113 on: March 23, 2021, 11:46:25 am »

It's looking very good Phil.

Not sure but as far as the flag is concerned I think the 3 vertical lines are the part that you would wrap around the pole. I'm sure others will let us know  ;)
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