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Type 22 Frigate HMS Cornwall
« on: October 13, 2007, 06:05:38 PM »

I have started the next ship. The Sirmar model of HMS Campbletown to be built as HMS Cornwall as of Summer 2007!!!
I have done a lot of research and stared at the plans and I started it on Thursday.
I was very lucky last week to get photos of both sides of the ship as she was moved into the dock in Devonport.
So far i have just opened the quarterdeck up and done some thinning of the bulkheads.
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Re: Type 22 Frigate HMS Cornwall
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2007, 07:06:36 PM »

Cant wait to see this one, i am about to order HMS broadsword

Rob
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Re: Type 22 Frigate HMS Cornwall
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2007, 10:59:53 PM »

Go  Dave  O0

Soon gonna start my first semi kit. (post office permitting, lol)
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Re: Type 22 Frigate HMS Cornwall
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2007, 11:06:19 PM »

Hi Simon
Which one have you bought?

Dave
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Re: Type 22 Frigate HMS Cornwall
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2007, 11:09:10 PM »

Simon
Sorry thought you were new due to single post but I remember sending you pics for York. Good luck with the build, don't hesitate to ask anything you wish

David
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Re: Type 22 Frigate HMS Cornwall
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2007, 04:32:55 PM »

Cheers David

As it happens i've got HMS Tyne on the way too! I think the cleaner lines on the plans may make it a better choice for my first atempt
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Re: Type 22 Frigate HMS Cornwall
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2007, 05:51:11 PM »

Holmsey,

Remember to keep the topweight as low as possible, use only the lightest materials, ie 1/64th ply or litho plate for the decks and superstructure, obeche for beams and stringers.

LB
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Re: Type 22 Frigate HMS Cornwall
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2007, 06:14:18 PM »

Hi Dave

Glad to see youv'e got Campbeltown. It's a really nice one to build.  Mine is going to be static so I dont have to worry about weight.
The Superstructure I built ( or am building) using the double skin method
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Re: Type 22 Frigate HMS Cornwall
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2007, 10:36:08 PM »

I've been working on the quarterdeck and flight deck support. There is a notch cut on the rear half of the flight deck where it overhangs the side of the hull. Note the camber built into the supports. This is just a dry run. I hope that the rudder horns will clear the quarterdeck as I don't want to make the deck removable. This was a weakness is Gloucester and let water in.
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Re: Type 22 Frigate HMS Cornwall
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2007, 02:16:23 PM »

The rudder tubes are fitted and the prop tubes are epoxied in place. Note the jigg useing the rudder tubes to set the prop shafts in the correct place. The motors are mounted on the bulkhead, this keeps them a low as possible. The bilge keels are made from alluminium plate glued through slots in the hull. All this will be filled with P38.
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Re: Type 22 Frigate HMS Cornwall
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2007, 05:37:06 PM »

What motors are you using in her?

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Re: Type 22 Frigate HMS Cornwall
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2007, 05:40:09 PM »

Hi Bob
Model Motors Direct 555s, Paul provided all the running gear and electronics with the kit.
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Re: Type 22 Frigate HMS Cornwall
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2007, 06:52:17 PM »

What are the dimples in the hull in the first pic just behind rudder tubes?

Rob
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Re: Type 22 Frigate HMS Cornwall
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2007, 08:18:03 PM »

They are the guides for the rudder tubes and the A frames, the plan says the rudder tubes are futhur forward so I went with that!!!
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Re: Type 22 Frigate HMS Cornwall
« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2007, 08:36:38 PM »

Work done this week:

Steering gear and servo fitted and tested, the framework around the bow built up, quarter deck glued down and the bilge keels being built up with P38.
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Re: Type 22 Frigate HMS Cornwall
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2007, 03:31:45 PM »

hello, any advice for an "aero" modeller who is considering a change in direction (ships and boats do not self destruct into kit form when they collide with a solid object I hope) having modeled aircraft for the past 40 + years I have been considering the purchase of the SIMAR kit of HMS Campbeltown. No illusions that it will be a steep learning curve but have plenty of time and modelling knowledge to do it. Any help will be appreciated from anybody who has built a type 22
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Re: Type 22 Frigate HMS Cornwall
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2007, 04:09:18 PM »

H Davidc
Advice:
Buy some modelling books. Speak to Paul at PSShips/Sirmar. Do lots of research and ask questions on here. When you get closer to getting the model give us a shout and I will send you some photos.

Holmsey
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Re: Type 22 Frigate HMS Cornwall
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2007, 07:09:11 PM »

Davidc

I'm soon to start on my first semi kit, i have found Tim Morgans book  (Scale model warships)to be somewhat of a bible for this. As well as keeping an eye out here too !
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Re: Type 22 Frigate HMS Cornwall
« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2007, 07:45:59 PM »

Holmsey


i see your pic showing your jig for lining up the props. can't the A frames be glued on and  used for this ?

Sorry if this is a daft question but this is the start of my 'quest for knowledge' as my Fleetscale HMS Tyne kit has just arrived  ;D

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Re: Type 22 Frigate HMS Cornwall
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2007, 11:08:47 PM »

I don't know how other people do it but there are so many things to consider when doing this. Lining up the A frames without the prop shaft would be very difficult. I will be putting the A frames on over the weekend and will post some pics.
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Re: Type 22 Frigate HMS Cornwall
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2007, 11:23:29 PM »

ok, i've just been looking at the tyne. On closer inspection the A frames can't be mounted direct onto the hull as the stems are too long. Therefore i would have to open up the holes and push them into the hull a little. So on reflection, geting the shafts fitted first is the only way to go ! 

I live and learn :)
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Re: Type 22 Frigate HMS Cornwall
« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2007, 11:31:33 PM »

What I will do is drill two pilot holes for each a frame. Epoxy wood blocks inside the hull over the blocks and let set. Drill and cut out the holes with lots of room to spare. Put the shaft into the tube and mount the a frames in the holes. Put the epoxy into the hole and leave to set with no load.
Fill with P38, hopefully the shaft does not bind.
ANYONE WITH ANY IDEAS?
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Re: Type 22 Frigate HMS Cornwall
« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2007, 11:39:28 PM »

I open up the "A" Frame holes to be a good sloppy fit.
Fit the frames with the shaft inside.
Check all dimensions.
hold in place with a little superglue, leave to set overnight as the superglue fumes will attack the epoxy.
Apply masking tape to the outside of the hull and pour a little epoxy over the small protrusions inside the hull.
When all dry, everything checked again, if all OK, make a little box out on blue tack oner each protrusion then pour more epoxy in.
Never had an "A" Frame come adrift even when model dropped on it.
It did bend a little, but was straightened out with pliers.

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Re: Type 22 Frigate HMS Cornwall
« Reply #23 on: November 02, 2007, 03:18:49 PM »

Foredeck is fitted and awaiting the rubbing down. I have built a test tank to ballast the models, note the laser leval. The guides for the batteries are superglued to the hull bottom.
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Re: Type 22 Frigate HMS Cornwall
« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2007, 04:26:39 PM »

Holmsey,

Your build seems to require a rather large amount of wine. I use vast amounts too. I find that it increases my accuracy immensely...........That is till about midway through the second bottle. I then have detected a sharp falloff in both accuracy and......well.......general motor functions of any kind.  :)

Seriously, your build is most interesting. Please continue to post your progress.

Cheers,

pops
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