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As one gets into the elderly category, Any regrets?
« on: February 09, 2021, 10:45:52 pm »

Hi all, looking back I wish I had listened to my mother she wanted to teach me how to play the piano.  She could play anything and had played in front of others from the age of 10. From playing the piano as the school marched in class by class to entertaining in a pub and towards the end she used to accompany a violoinist for small concerts.  Nothing professional though.

I did start but patience was not a virtue I had, after 3 months starting to use both hands she said I was ready to have some proper lessons, but I wanted to do so many other things.
I have done quite a few diverse things since but would love to be able to sit at a piano and just tinkle the ivories.
Never mind,
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Re: As one gets into the elderly category, Any regrets?
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2021, 10:51:21 pm »

Far too many for me Roy. If I could start over with hindsight I would do very many different things in different ways. I don't know whether to laugh or cry  %%
I console myself with three self sufficient kids and a relatively comfy present day thanks to second wife.


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I think if you get to OLD without very serious strife you should be grateful for so far.....
A number of friends my age are either ill or dead already so I'm enjoying what I'm dealt to date
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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2021, 11:23:30 pm »

Hi taranis I have mulled it over for many years.  When I was brought up, having a degree was not even thought about.  But if I did have a degree I would have progressed much further but I would not have had the experiences I did have and in the main they were OK.

It was suggested I did a Msc but I could not see any advantage to me for the work involved.  Also I worked out what an optimum hourly rate was for me, I decided that some senior jobs just took up too much time and I liked going home at 5:30 for other interests and reading a story to my then young children before bedtime was one of them. You never get that time back again, ever.

All my lot now have degrees and Phd's and I am the least academically qualified person I know! 
 
But I have demonstrated the Argentine Tango with my partner in front of an audience on more than a few occasions.  I like to pursue my interests as they come.
I am a good way into my bucket list swimming on the Great Barrier reef looked rather unlikely but I did get to do it.  Riding on a Zip wire should be easy but has so far eluded me.

Who else is working down their bucket list?  And whats on it that you have done?

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« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2021, 04:12:24 am »


Hullo Roy........back in ~~1924 my Grandmother played piano to silent movies at the Royal Theatre in the Woonona/Bulli Municipilatary


This is about 5 miles North of Wollongong ......to top this off, the Voininist accompanying the Pianist for the Royal Theatre was none other than my Grandfather


Grandpa was the Engineers Welder at Old Bulli Coal Colliery, & for extra $ played the violin at a number of Theaters before teaming up with the woman who was eventually to be my Grandmother  :kiss: 


https://lookingbackwithmickroberts.wordpress.com/2015/04/08/the-royal-theatre-bulli/


Grandpas violin has been rebuilt and now with one of his Great Great Grandchildren who plays in a NSW State Government - BHP sponsored Youth Orchestra


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« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2021, 05:14:17 am »

This sums up my life, no regrets and I would do it all over again in an instant.


[font=.SF UI Display][font=.SFUIDisplay]Nostalgia by Steve Woolley [/font][/color][/font][/size][font=.SF UI Display][/color][font=.SFUIDisplay][/font][/color][/font][/size][font=.SF UI Display][/color][font=.SFUIDisplay]Many years ago I was in my mid thirties and life was comfortable. I was married with a reasonably successful business and a good group of mates that I trained with regularly a few times a week. One Tuesday night over a beer they were planning their usual Friday night out for that weekend which they had done virtually every week since leaving school. On one occasion I just couldn't be bothered so I said I would give it a miss. I can't now remember my excuse but I can clearly remember the reply from an old friend named Carl........ "Steve you need to ####### get out more.... You haven't ###### lived"[/font][/color][/font][/size][font=.SF UI Display][/color][font=.SFUIDisplay]Well, Carl me old mate, by the time I was 22 I had been around the world 3 times and visited 53 countries. I'd had my 17th, 18th and 21st birthdays at sea (all coincidentally in Biscay) and I had been to places my landlubber friends could only dream of and some they couldn't even begin to imagine. I had seen and experienced things of which they had no comprehension, I had embarked upon adventures with other pals to exotic places and boy had I grown up quickly. I had flown to the U.S, Japan,Hong Kong and Singapore by national flag carriers. I had swam in the Indian Ocean and the Suez Canal, I had been trained to put out a serious fire properly, I could identify star constellations and "read" the weather, I could tie a proper knot ( I'm calling it a knot for simplicity - hitch or bend more correctly) I could take and action an instruction dutifully and respectfully because I knew that the guy who gave it had done it many times before me, I could help my nephew with his homework " uncle Steve .... Why do we have tides?". I had been a lowly Peggy and literally been up to my waste in poop, I had slept in a hammock beneath the stars, I'd seen dolphins playing beneath the bows, and watched flying fish whilst painting on deck in those glorious Indian Ocean swells heading for Penang, Singapore, Japan, The Phillipines.... Oh! The blue sky..... Oh! The blue sea...... Oh! The anticipation! [/font][/color][/font][/size][font=.SF UI Display][/color][font=.SFUIDisplay]I'd been to Bugis Street, The Venus Rooms, The Mozzy Bar, The Hong Kong Bar, The Harbour Lights so I had seen it all and I had met Mamma San so you know what that means ( sorry I know there are ladies in this group [/font][/color][/font][/size][font=.AppleColorEmojiUI]😜[/font][font=.SFUIDisplay][/size]) I'd seen Mt Fuji and the remains of Krakatoa, I'd been dazzled and in awe from the centre of Hong Kong harbour at night and I've anchored in a bay somewhere in Indonesia were the only light from shore was the village campfires. [/font]
[/size][font=.SF UI Display][/color][font=.SFUIDisplay]I've worked in freezing conditions and I've worked in the tropics, I've worked aloft from a Bosuns chair and I've worked at the bottom of the engine room. I've operated 35 ton forklifts and 40 ton cranes. I've worked until I am so exhausted that I couldn't read my own notes the next day. I've been carried back onboard by shipmates when we've all had a little too much fun, and been guided by older and more sensible heads when I was young and didn't know any better. I've worked in a typhoon so violent that nobody slept properly for 72 hours, I learned, earned  [/font][/color][/font][/size]and was given responsibility. At 21 years of age my employers trusted me ( well for 8 hours a day at least) to ensure that their prized asset was heading in the right direction and that it didn't hit anything. I'd been eating three "all you can" meals a day from the age of 16. For a job description read experience in painting on a large scale, planned maintenance, electronics, engineering, cargo handling machinery, health and safety (well sort of!), logistics, use and operation of Nav aids, skilled in the science of celestial navigation, fire fighter, docker, crane driver, greaser, forklift driver,steward, meteorologist, tally clerk, cargo super, rigger, emergency response, signaller, boat handler, chart work, security, management, admin, student, teacher, bog cleaner, bilge emptier (that's where the brown stuff was), communications etc etc and I nearly gave it all up for a certain Fee Fee Cheng in Taiwan [font=.AppleColorEmojiUI]😅[/font][font=.SFUIDisplay][/size].[/font]
[/size][font=.SF UI Display][/color][font=.SFUIDisplay]I've worked nights, I've worked shifts, I've worked watches, I've done all three in the same week, I've done each for weeks on end. I've been bored and I've been knackered but I have also looked up at the mid Pacific stars and chatted about nothing in particular with the officer of the watch or the lookout and the hours have melted away in what seemed like minutes. I've worked alone and I've worked in a team, a proper team with men who knew their job and had learned it the only way through experience and who in the most part would help the inexperienced, as long as you showed willing. It was a long time ago now but I loved every single minute of it.[/font][/color][/font][/size][font=.SF UI Display][/color][font=.SFUIDisplay]I've crossed the equator and been duly initiated, I've shopped for presents, cameras, watches and silk kimonoes in Singapore, Hong Kong and the Motomachi in Japan. I know how to barter ( well as long as you don't count the genuine imitation gold ring with blue sapphire I bought in Trinco I think it was), I've been up the Empire State building, been through the Suez and Panama canals, I've been to the Peace Park in Hiroshima and witnessed the cherry blossom in Osaka, I've been to temples in Thailand and I've been to "temples" in the Reeperbahn and Red Light districts of Amsterdam and Rotterdam. I've travelled on and in helicopters, rickshaws, tuck tucks, The Bullet train, mopeds, speedboats, powered canoes and paddled canoes, lifeboats and God knows what else. I've been to beach parties in Ceylon, Nigeria, Indonesia, Mexico and California. I've worked in shipyards and in dry docks, I've worked on brand new ships and I've worked on ships built before air con when the sweat runs down your legs and the cockroaches run up them, funnily enough they weren't called cockroaches they were Jaspers, and cakes were called tab nabs and the big blue wet thing we were floating in was called the "oggan?". I've experienced many times the anticipation and excitement of joining a new ship, the smell of bunkers at the top of the gangway and the din of cargo winches, instantly replaced by the homely smell of fresh bread from the galley and the gentle hum of hidden generators as you enter the internal calm and close the heavy weather door behind you..... The start of new adventures..... New friends and colleagues. I've experienced the smell of woodsmoke wafting across the waves from Malaysia the evening before landfall, the smells and sounds of markets and bars in the mystical, magical orient and much much more. [/font][/color][/font][/size][font=.SF UI Display][/color][font=.SFUIDisplay]Anyone who has been deep sea will know that none of the above is particularly exceptional. And I am not boasting or complaining, it was just....,well, our life and it was brilliant for us all especially when so young! Life at sea ( then) was all about variety, new experiences, ever changing scenery, new horizons and it was both exciting and rewarding and it set me up to have a sensible and practical attitude and approach to life when I settled ashore. None of the above is scripted in any way just random thoughts whilst having smoko (an extended smoko cos I know I have gone on a bit) and I hope nobody objects to me sharing my thoughts. [/font][/color][/font][/size][font=.SF UI Display][/color][font=.SFUIDisplay]One day I might explain all this to Carl but he won't understand. Carl was until the day he retired an insurance man, which I admit is an entirely honourable job but one of which I have absolutely no experience[/font][/color][/font][/size][font=.AppleColorEmojiUI]😀😀😀😀[/font]

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Re: As one gets into the elderly category, Any regrets?
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2021, 08:54:02 am »

Hi Jerry, who is Steve?  Sounds like you have visited all over, were you in the Navy? 

My brother had the wanderlust and he has travelled all over.  After an apprenticeship gave up on mundane jobs and joined the Merchant Navy as a Junior Engineering Officer, worked his way up and then moved on.  My father also went almost everywhere in the world but the need to travel passed me by.  Although in distance I have travelled its about 6 or 7 times around the world, but mostly asleep at 35,000 feet.

He went back to Bakery Engineering and was at the place where he did his apprenticeship but in charge of everything including his old boss.  Things change and he ran his own company making and repairing equipment.  If he needed electronic and electrical expertise he called me in and we became quite well known in London for repairing the unfixable.  Always enjoyed working together as well.

There is a lot of pleasure in watching over children as they grow up but that is what makes us all a bit different.  I had a 2 year stint at an Infant school as a Learning Support Assistant keeping all the BBC micros going and taking the little ones through their IT instruction on a one to one basis.  Even got a nice mention in the Ofsted report.

I have found that the more you give out the more you get back.I am a qualified Bridge Tournament Director running Duplicate Bridge evenings for 80 to 100 people.  It is quite complex but after a while second nature, you also have to adjudicate mistakes and errors and arguments but manage to leave the table with 4 smiling faces.  I just stopped some years ago but nice memories.

So in life did you drive or were you driven?
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Re: As one gets into the elderly category, Any regrets?
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2021, 08:54:55 am »

I'm not old but my two biggest regrets in life apart from missing my father's death  was doing a degree when I should have gone to sea and got a trade first , and I wished several times since I never bought my own place! Being a property owner has been a pian in the ass for my career!!
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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2021, 09:16:00 am »

Hi Roy, Steve Woolley was an apprentice with me in the Blue Funnel Line. He has a particularly good way with words. Parallel to my Merchant Navy service I was also a Commissioned Officer list 1 RNR. Steve’s words speak for us all though. It was a hard life but very rewarding. I retired 10 years ago. Still fit and healthy at 71. Split my time evenly in UK living on and cruising the UK canals and in winter move to Canberra staying with my youngest daughter and her family and my eldest daughter a few suburbs away. Been trapped in Oz by Covid since Nov 2019 but hoping to return to our boat around June.


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Re: As one gets into the elderly category, Any regrets?
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2021, 09:16:59 am »

Its still a great life at sea.
As the previous poster has stated so much to see and do, but most of the far east runs ashore have changed now but still so much to see.


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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2021, 09:32:22 am »

I'm currently dying of cancer - I'm not going to get to 'old age' but I stand by every decision I've made through my life.    There's lots of things I might have done differently with more information at the time, but I consider I've acted honourably, honestly and truthfully my whole life.    I have a wonderful wife and daughter so any changes earlier on in my life may not have put me in such a position.      I retired at 49 having done things that most people wouldn't believe or understand.        I've been to the top of mountains, I've been to the bottom of the sea, I've flown lots of different planes, had lots of toy cars, even got to drive a trainload of commuters into London! I've enjoyed more experiences than most ever get to try.

I'd say that I have *lived*.  :-))

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Re: As one gets into the elderly category, Any regrets?
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2021, 09:40:16 am »

I’ve probably got another 30 years to catch up until I’m in this category but in my short time I’ve had so far I’ve noticed two things that I’m glad I did and didn’t do-
The one thing I’m glad I did was join the RAF as an airframe apprentice
The one thing I’m glad I didn’t do was go to university before I got a job


Apart from the debt caused these days from being at university and now a majority of degrees having no value in the real world I was put off it by my sixth form tutors who went out their way to force me to go to university despite me saying that I had already got a job in the RAF ready to go into- they couldn’t understand my logic even when I explained it to them that I was essentially being paid to learn a job (and get qualifications) or pay as you learn! I was of one of ten students who weren’t going to university after school not because I wasn’t clever enough- I had good GCSE and A-level results to get into most university places that I could have applied for.
It got so silly at school that I was called in the heads offices to have a talk which ended badly resulting in the head telling me the school didn’t support my application to join the military as it was school policy! I knew he was speaking rubbish as the school had an Army cadet office on the grounds!
Now I’m getting in contact with former school friends and finding out that apart from still being in debt they are all in in jobs that they didn’t have degrees in. Looking back over the last 18 years since I left sixth form I think I chose wisely but as for my RAF career... well there are many things I would change knowing what I know now!
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« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2021, 10:26:37 am »

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« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2021, 10:40:34 am »

There are lots of things that I wish that I had done but there again I wouldn't change anything.

Life isn't a series of one off events but rather is a continuous stream. If I changed something when I was say 12 it might have changed everything in my life since. I might never have met my wife, I might not be living where I am comfortable & relaxed etc. The butterfly flapping its wings effect.

So yes lots of things that I would have liked to have done (some more realistic than others!) but nothing I regret not doing.
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« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2021, 12:22:45 pm »

Like Nick B I'm glad I didn't go to Uni either, and for the same reason, I was headed for the RAF. But I made a rather basic error and failed the medical as I'm asthmatic.  :((


Then I made a second error and failed 'A' Level Maths so didn't get into the de Havilland Student Apprentice scheme either[size=78%]! [/size] :((


But with hindsight (the world's only exact science...  :-) ) it was a good move as the aviation industry was on the cusp of a hefty shrinkage and I ended up in the motor industry for a while instead. After that it was a case of being in the right place at the right time, twice in succession, and I ended up doing many things I'd only dreamed about when I was younger.  :-))
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« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2021, 12:55:31 pm »

Summing up we all look back on our lives some of it good and some not so good. My generation have had the best times I look back on the holidays we have had and always owning our own house owing nothing to any body and finding work was a lot easier.  I have enjoyed my hobbies over the years and I have meet some fantastic people who have become very good friends.  Me personally I would have not have changed anything has to future no one knows what lies around the corner so we carry on has normal and enjoy what we have had for all those years.


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« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2021, 01:19:28 pm »

Hi jerry I can now connect you to another thread on being marooned in Canberra.  I also enjoy the English and Welsh canals having had half a dozen holidays on canal boats.  Some great times and all were mini adventures.
Hi again RAFlaunches, I agree I just signed up for 4 years in the RAF best decision of my then young life.  Learning electronics and logic set me up for the rest of my life.  Took me from the error of working in an office (father's influence) to working with my hands and that little bit in between called a brain.  However I was used to the clerical side and a great help in later jobs.

I did find many of the RAF Officers rather a disappointment, in my time 57 - 61 there were a lot of the 'self entitled' but otherwise incompetent brigade.  The engineering qualified ones were a different breed altogether and I think rather embarrassed at some of their colleagues behaviour.

My son did rather well  academically went out to work and came back to Academia as an Associate Professor at a UNI but he felt so many of the coleagues he met had never left school!  He was looking for a project at Uni with his mate and they had a long train ride to Scotland and they hatched up a project to keep the funds coming in to put pizza on the plate.  It got a government rating of A+  he would not tell me what it was!  And I can't tell you what his mate does.

RST, yes later I realised when I had people with degrees working for me only a few could I trust out on their own.  It is nice to be qualified but nicer to be competent.

 I felt sorry for the ones who thought it was all a serious business of clawing your way to the top.  I had a happy 3 years taking on Indusrial trainees for a year and passing them around sending them on missions and a bit of 1 2 1.  We would also get the graduate entry coming round as well I did much the same for them also asked them to sit back and observe. They voted each year for the best detachment and I was usually at the top.

Learning to relax is a big plus towards a longer life, sorry about your predicament Plastic, seems like you have the right approach though.  Coping with it something beyond me, just hope should the time come I can be as philosophical.  What about planning this time next year to sue your doctor for incompetence?
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Re: As one gets into the elderly category, Any regrets?
« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2021, 01:27:46 pm »

Only one regret of the "what if" variety in the same way as Kit. Headed for RN but discovered that hayfever was a no-no. No good being on watch with eyes streaming!Apart from that had a great time. Met wonderful people etc.etc.etc.
Loved my work in the main and met the right lady at the right time.
On balance, life has been good and will, god willing, continue for a bit longer :-)
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« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2021, 01:30:48 pm »

I'm not going to rehash my personal history on here but I have rather come to the conclusion the Three Score Years Plus Ten, (with a bit more added on while most of your essential parts are still functioning), simply isn't enough to do all the things I'd like to do. I don't think I would get bored with double that.

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« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2021, 01:33:37 pm »

Hi TonyH I have that still as I am allergic to mainly grass pollen. But out at sea there is no pollen! 

When a lad 10 or 11 or so I had the hay fever.  On holiday usually Clacton if I went to the top of the cliff to sail model boats I would get swollen eyes etc.  Come down to the sandy beach with an inshore breeze, no pollen.   Eyes cleared up in about half an hour.
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« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2021, 01:51:04 pm »

Hi Colin clearly apart from yourself, we all seem to have more history than future.  Agree though it is difficult to feel bored always something comes up, to distract.

 However my intention at this moment is to have a cup of tea and sit in front of the telly, contemplating the world around us through closed eyelids.

Roy
 
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« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2021, 01:59:07 pm »

I have spent all my life (until early retirement last year) in the entertainment world, from child actor in the late 60's through the west end and then touring the world, great fun, a few wives and many stories but I wouldn't change a thing.
Regret: The workshop isn't big enough  {-)
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« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2021, 03:03:17 pm »

When I look back I just think oh well  Tis better to be a Has been than a Never been
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« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2021, 03:07:32 pm »

Its all very good to look back and think about the good times we have enjoyed.  What we hope now is the light does not go out to quickly and we have remaining good health and pursue our interests what ever they may be. Biggest regret life has passed to quickly


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« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2021, 03:33:41 pm »

Hi Roy,
Not according to the RN Commander who spread the word and answered questions when leaving school to go to Uni in 1966. Big recruitment drive for o/cadets at the time. Pollen can carry into mid-Atlantic so no-go. May be different now as anti histamines are a lot better than they were and what's more, they don't knock you out O0
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Re: As one gets into the elderly category, Any regrets?
« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2021, 03:59:34 pm »

This is such an interesting thread with great stories. I wouldn’t change a thing in my life as the experiences that I’ve had have brought me to today. I live a very simple life now being a trucker and really appreciate everyday. I do have a masters degree but I’ve never used it. It actually taught me that I like being out in the world and not stuck in the same place. However my life choices have meant that I missed my kids growing up as I’m always away and I have lost count of the special occasions that I just could not get home for. I’m lucky that my wife is amazing and totally supportive. We’ll you’ve got to pay the bill’s somehow and I do consider myself a very lucky man
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