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[Reade Models]

Going through a couple of old books, I found this photograph.  May be of interest?

The original is 10" x 8" and you can see a lot of detail by zooming in to it.  If anybody wants a copy by E-mail, please PM me (original file size is around 860KB)

Malc

[Reade Models]

Sorry, I should have made it clear that this is an original photograph, not one of the pictures in the book.

Malc

[ando]

hello      nice picture      :)    thankyou for shareing it with us  :)

[Ow Abreast]

Don't ever 'copy' other peoples work it's simply not fair,would you be happy if someone copied your work? i think not! its seems to be ok  on this forum to copy lets say a cd or pass on a plan that another person has worked hard to create,copying is wrong lets not have any double standards!!

[warspite]

looks like a modified third series 73ft, only two tubes and a more modern cannon up front.

[Reade Models]

Ow Abreast

What on earth gave you the idea that this was copying someone else's work?  It's an original 10inch x 8 inch photograph - possibly/probably taken by my father?  I suspect that I may also have the negative for it too?

Malc

[Peter Fitness]

Don't ever 'copy' other peoples work it's simply not fair,would you be happy if someone copied your work? i think not! its seems to be ok  on this forum to copy lets say a cd or pass on a plan that another person has worked hard to create,copying is wrong lets not have any double standards!!

Ow Abreast, Malc made it quite clear in his second post that the photo was an original, so your comment was unnecessary.

Peter.

[Bunkerbarge]

Don't ever 'copy' other peoples work it's simply not fair,would you be happy if someone copied your work? i think not! its seems to be ok  on this forum to copy lets say a cd or pass on a plan that another person has worked hard to create,copying is wrong lets not have any double standards!!

I think we have to be careful to keep things in context here and suggesting that it "seems" to be OK to copy CD's and plans is simply not true.  This forum does not in any way condone breaching any copyright laws and I am certain that I speak for the vast majority of our membership who do not support such things.

Let us not forget though that there are a considerable number of plans and literature that are in the public domain and can be perfectly legally copied and shared.  There are many plans given away free with monthly publications that may be copied, as long as they are not sold.

I think Reade Models made it perfectly clear that the picture in question was ligitimately owned by them and they were very generous enough to allow members to take copies.

I think we should recognise the efforts showed to share a superb picture with fellow members who appreciate such things and not spoil the gesture with wild and inaccurate accusations.

[Reade Models]

Just to prove that I do hold the original photograph, here's one I took earlier.  Sorry about the quality, it was still dark then, and it was taken before I had put my makeup on. 
Malc

[Roger in France]

Oh, Malcolm, you look younger every day! But I still had to make up a mask for your post before I dared look at the photograph you are holding.   

Roger in France.

[Reade Models]

Oh, Malcolm, you look younger every day!

Roger, thank you for your kind words.  It cannot be denied.

Malc

[barryfoote]

Don't ever 'copy' other peoples work it's simply not fair,would you be happy if someone copied your work? i think not! its seems to be ok  on this forum to copy lets say a cd or pass on a plan that another person has worked hard to create,copying is wrong lets not have any double standards!!

I think we have to be careful to keep things in context here and suggesting that it "seems" to be OK to copy CD's and plans is simply not true.  This forum does not in any way condone breaching any copyright laws and I am certain that I speak for the vast majority of our membership who do not support such things.

Let us not forget though that there are a considerable number of plans and literature that are in the public domain and can be perfectly legally copied and shared.  There are many plans given away free with monthly publications that may be copied, as long as they are not sold.

I think Reade Models made it perfectly clear that the picture in question was ligitimately owned by them and they were very generous enough to allow members to take copies.

I think we should recognise the efforts showed to share a superb picture with fellow members who appreciate such things and not spoil the gesture with wild and inaccurate accusations.

Very well said Bunkerbarge. Totally agree.

[Martin (Admin)]

The photos real, I think Malc is a copy! 

Anyone tell me a bit more about the boat?

[Stavros]

Well Malc you could have smiled   

Stavros

[BlazingPenguin]

Our renditions of some boats...................now THATS wild & inaccurate! 

[RickF]

Kingston make a hull for 523

http://www.westbourne-model.co.uk/kingston-mouldings-hull-mouldings.htm

1945 Vosper MTB 523
 These are scale models of two different boats, representing early and late examples from the WW2 period. One is No. 523, a heavily armed 73 foot Type 2 MTB from 1944/5......
....  together with some rare wartime photos that were supplied by Vosper themselves from their archives.....The first photo is a wartime shot of 523 at speed while still in Vosper's hands

Is this the photo in question - it certainly looks newly painted?

Rick

[Reade Models]

Hi RickF

I had no idea that the photograph was that old?

I do have some others somewhere, I must try to find them.  I think there are four or five altogether?  Do you think that these are likely to be Vosper's own photographs?  My dad had them at home for as long as I can remember, they came to us with all of the other paperwork and catalogues when we took the model business over from him.

One of the catalogues is fascinating, it's a hard back volume of Simpson-Lawrence Ltd of Glasgow ship's chandlery and fittings products.  It's fully illustrated, but the pages are quite yellowed now and I'm guessing that it dates from the 1930's?  All of the fittings are priced in Pounds, Shillings and Pence - typically, an eight inch cowl vent (up to 40inches high) cost £5.17.6

I would have posted some of the contents on the Forum for interest, but after what happened earlier on this thread, I'm not going to bother...

Malc

[DickyD]

Oh come on Malc don't let one stroppy git spoil it for the rest of us.

Publish and be damned

[Arrow5]

Simpson-Lawrence Ltd. are still in business today.

[Reade Models]

Hi DickyD

As arrow5 says, Simpson-Lawrence are still in business and I'd hate to upset them.  If the catalogue is as old as I believe it to be, it's probably out of copyright and being a catalogue is probably in the public domain anyway?

I'll write to Simpson-Lawrence and see if I can get permission to reproduce extracts from the catalogue on the Forum.  If I can get permission, I'll publish that, and the catalogue extracts on a new thread.

Regards, Malc

[Bunkerbarge]

Malc, I think that is the perfect solution and should satisfy everyone.  Many thanks for going to all this trouble to show us what will almost certainly be a very intresting item.

[DickyD]

Malc
There are loads of their old catalogues for sale on the net by book companies.

Don't bother to contact them on their e'mail as the postmaster chucks them straight back.

Hope you can sort something out.

[Reade Models]

Hi DickyD

So what do I do if my E-mail is thrown back?  Do I assume that they're not interested/bothered and publish extracts anyway?  Give me a clue?

Malc

[Bunkerbarge]

If the company are still in existance give them a quick ring.

[DickyD]

Gosh, yes,telephone, now where is mine ?

Good idea Richard, how does that sound Malc ? :-\