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RickF

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Split hulls
« on: January 22, 2007, 12:56:52 pm »

Not sure if "split hulls" is the correct terminology, but has anyone had experience of constructing a big hull - say, nine or ten feet long - that is built in two halves and bolted together for sailing?

Any hints, tips or warnings?

Rick
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Re: Split hulls
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2007, 02:56:54 pm »

Not sure if "split hulls" is the correct terminology, but has anyone had experience of constructing a big hull - say, nine or ten feet long - that is built in two halves and bolted together for sailing?

Any hints, tips or warnings?

Rick

I have seen another thread on here.

Split hull imlplies split along the centre/keel line.
I think you mean isplit n several sections. e.g. fore/mid/aft
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RickF

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Re: Split hulls
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2007, 04:34:36 pm »

Yes -  a ten foot hull split into two five-foot-long sections.

Rick
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Re: Split hulls
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2007, 07:55:04 pm »

hi have a word with john pollit  or poll as he is known on this forum he has a tug towing hull that splits in three i think its 10 feet or so and joined with rods he will no doubt have a few photos of it to show u. it is very easy to transport from place to place
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Re: Split hulls
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2007, 09:49:37 pm »

Not done it myself, but have seen a lot of them.
One thing to be aware of though is whatever way you attach the hull parts together make it serviceable.
I have seen some lovely models that after a few years do "flex" at the join.
Only takes a very little movement to show though.

Bob
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Re: Split hulls
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2007, 10:16:10 pm »

   Hi Rick.

   The tow that ministeve posted is in three sections bow mid aft.  It's a type of an overlapped
   joint,the bow fit's the mid section then two steel rods are pushed down to secure the two
   sections togeather,then same fore the Stern. To make a smaller tow you remove the middle
   section.
   This tow is also self flooding it as a floor about water line level with a valve fitted  in the center
   of the floor, you open the valve to let air out and the hull section sinks to water level then close
   the valve,on removing the tow open the valve air in water out, you can only remove one  
   section at a time. Hope this is of help to you.
   Regards
   Poll.
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Re: Split hulls
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2007, 11:48:39 pm »

See also the Phil Bolger/Harold Payson "Folding Schooner" - 1:1 scale.
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Re: Split hulls
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2007, 12:42:58 am »

Thanks for the input chaps.

Poll, I am looking to build a 1:48 scale model, so your method will not be suitable.

Toby, I had a look at the folding schooner. Thats the sort of thing I was envisaging -  basically  forward and aft sections of hull, with a watertight bulkhead on each, that bolts up to form a rigid structure. I must admit that the idea of hinging them together hadn't occurred to me.

Just to let you in on the project - and it is a very tentative one - I have been given the 1:96 plans for the 1901 cruiser HMS Kent. I am thinking of doubling them up and building a 1:48 version, which will come out at about nine-and-a-half feet.

So, keep the ideas for a transportable hull coming - I'm going to need all the help I can get!

Rick
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Re: Split hulls
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2008, 11:38:25 am »

Try Boatman on the Model Warships UK forum.....he has done several.

 O0

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Re: Split hulls
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2008, 09:53:13 pm »

on sunday met the guys from tugs are us. they have a tow boat in shape of a container ship that is made up from 5 sections of about 3 feet each that they can build up from 6 feet to 15 feet. very impressive. if you want the guys email address send me a pm

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Re: Split hulls
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2008, 10:28:46 pm »

hi there. Far of in the future i want to do a 3m long QE2. She would have to be built in 2 half for transport. The idea i came up with. In the centre of the ship build 2 bulk head both the same profile. I thought about using 20mm 10 layer or there abouts ply. Use the brass railway joiners as shown in the link. then 4 m12 brass or stainless bolts to hold her together. I would all so use an O ring round each bolt between the bulk heads to stop any water seaping past.
Note my local railway club has been using this joiners for a long time now and we never have had a problem.

John

http://www.stationroadbaseboards.co.uk/cart_dowels.htm
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