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wallace

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Electric motors
« on: August 02, 2011, 10:14:58 am »

who knows where to get good motors on line and what is the right motor for the boat I have always brought my motors not knowing what they are.
Just getting into things slowly  been told to get motors for my new boat the Resolve    motors  900 torque  rpm 3500   and i must have the right prop to go with it etc and also the right couplings  any help out there please.
Also the right motor for my Sir Lancelot   all boats running on 12 v.
             wallace  :-)) :-))
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ZZ56

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Re: Electric motors
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2011, 12:43:47 am »

The first place to start is the other end of the drivetrain:  the propeller.  The Resolve and Sir Lancelot are scale boats so the correctly-scaled propeller size should be on the plans.  Then you look at what voltage you would like your propulsion system to run at, based on what you want to use for batteries and speed controllers.  The last thing you do is look at the maximum effective RPM of your chosen propeller (provided by Raboesch, or here and pick a motor that spins close to that RPM at your chosen voltage.  The hard thing to determine is how much torque per amp you need; nobody has published a graph of how many gram-centimeters or inch-ounces it takes per mm of prop diameter.  Generally, if it's a slower-turning motor, it's wound for torque over RPM, which is what you want.  

This way, you have a model that has a wide range of operational speeds without worrying about not enough power at max throttle or cavitation at higher power settings, and which doesn't draw excessive amps just cruising around the pond at half-power.

EDIT:  should mention that the best way to figure out torque is to eyeball the motor's diameter and see that it is close to the diameter of the propeller
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Chuffy

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Re: Electric motors
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2011, 09:00:22 am »

Hi Wallace

I have just fitted the motors in to my new build, like yours a Resolve They are Bosch car heater motors and run at  about 3500/ 4000  rpm and they draw about 9amps at close to stall. They are easily available from scrapyards, They have a 8mm shaft and I have machined up 8mm brass threaded sleeves for the propshafts. The connection between motor and propshaft is standard reinforced petrol pipe, which is a good tight fit and requires no further fixing. Control is brilliant you can see the individual prop blades turning smoothly at very low speeds in the water. However full forward and she's most unlady like and leaves a wash the width of our pond, most unscale but you don't have to use the speed, it's not needed. The props are standard Rabosch 4 blade, 60mm from Modelboat bits. With this setup she is so manoeuvrable on two throttles. Turns on her own axis and If i was more cleaver with the sticks would turn on her  stern, I have decided to get one of ACTions mixers to help me take advantage of the manoeuvrability. I know you asked for motors available on line but these ones are quite easy to get hold of from the scrapyards and at £5 each good value for money

Paul. 
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Chuffy

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Re: Electric motors
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2011, 09:31:29 am »

Have I murdered Wallace's thread or is the Resolve not a popular boat among Mayhemer's ?
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wallace

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Re: Electric motors
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2011, 09:45:57 am »

 :-)) :-)) :-) hi chuffy and other for your help with my motors all notes taken into my head and many thanks for taking the time.
As for my build of the Resolve chuffy i will be putting it on site as and when i really start to build have just done the stand after three goes and it looks A1 ok nice and strong have already taken photos  and have drill the hull ready to take the running gear when i get all the gear i will begin.Take care everyone happy sailing while the weather is kind to us.     wallace   :-))
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