Topic: 1/96 scale type 45 (Read 6638 times)

malcf · « **on:** September 22, 2013, 05:42:11 pm »

Hi just ordered 1/96 scale type 45 hull off Sirmar Fittings and also the plans off Jacobin (an early xmas prezzy to myself

), it will be my next project after i finish the Lloydsman (or should i work on both}

i considered the Fleetscale model at 1/72 scale but had to dismiss it due to size

of car etc,so i will be seeking advice on build and motors pref brushed and will def be going the styrene card route instead of balsa wood, have done a few bits with it and i like it

should see me out over the winter season and more.

Stu · « **Reply #1 on:** September 22, 2013, 09:59:37 pm »

It's a good choice I recently just sold the one I built, I would recommend building the upper structure from plastic and not use the carbon fibre one to reduce the upper weight.

malcf · « **Reply #2 on:** September 22, 2013, 10:05:48 pm »

thanks for that Stu what motors did you have in it?.

Stu · « **Reply #3 on:** September 22, 2013, 10:07:55 pm »

I used two 777's on 12 volts.

malcf · « **Reply #4 on:** September 22, 2013, 10:09:40 pm »

Not familiar with 777,s are they geared or direct drive?.

Stu · « **Reply #5 on:** September 22, 2013, 10:13:35 pm »

I used them in direct drive. They were from model motors direct but I think fleetscale stock them.

Stu · « **Reply #6 on:** September 22, 2013, 10:19:36 pm »

Here is the setup I used

malcf · « **Reply #7 on:** September 23, 2013, 05:42:56 am »

Thanks for the info Stu did you use a flexible coupling or does the prop shaft fit directly on the end of the motor ?.
I presume they are from G Sitek.

Stu · « **Reply #8 on:** September 23, 2013, 07:25:30 am »

Yes they are sitek shafts I used a universal coupling but removed the plastic section and fitted a piece of gas hose.

malcf · « **Reply #9 on:** September 26, 2013, 08:31:28 pm »

I have two of these motors are they suitable or not they are 12 volt johnson 550 type fan cooled not sure how many revs they do they have numbers on them 64370 334151 3.2mm shaft 36mm dia 65mm long body with a 38 mm dia outer sleeve 55mm long over the motor casing.

Stu · « **Reply #10 on:** September 28, 2013, 10:55:27 am »

Sadly I can't remember what size the props are so I can not answer that one for you I'm afraid. I normally go off the diameter of the motor should be equal to or greater than the prop size.

malcf · « **Reply #11 on:** September 28, 2013, 03:05:13 pm »

Thanks Stu after reading up on a few forums some are opting for Vauxhall Astra or VW Golf heater fan motors,I have seen one based on the type 45 hull at our club pond fitted with British Leyland Morris 1000 heater motors and it performed fine, as they are now getting scarce i am going for the Astra motors and try them i have read that they will turn at very low revs due to them having more than 4 poles just got to find them a bit cheaper than on Ebay will go round local breakers and haggle i think.

I have just received the plans from Jecobin at first sight they look daunting but i will take some time studying them along with some photos if i can find them on the net then it should come clearer,

one thing i am a bit confused about is the rudder positions the plans show them outboard of the props and on one forum the builder was moving them inboard of the props after getting advice from fellow modellers if anyone has any photos of the real ships being built with a view on the stern i would appreciate any help they can give me, until i receive the hull i wont know where the rudder markings are on the moulding and if they are in the correct place anyway

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Stavros · « **Reply #12 on:** September 28, 2013, 07:43:06 pm »

Personally I wouldnt bother using old fan motors not cheap by any means,most scrappy's will charge around £30 ea for them I would use apair of 900 series motors that are readily available and also mounts are available for them as well...............your choice

Dave

TheLongBuild · « **Reply #13 on:** September 28, 2013, 08:03:51 pm »

Quote from: Stu on September 28, 2013, 10:55:27 am

Sadly I can't remember what size the props are so I can not answer that one for you I'm afraid. I normally go off the diameter of the motor should be equal to or greater than the prop size.

Just Checked mine, 45 mm

Stu · « **Reply #14 on:** September 28, 2013, 08:11:50 pm »

I had forgot you were building one Larry

TheLongBuild · « **Reply #15 on:** September 28, 2013, 08:18:05 pm »

Oooh need a dictionary here " Building " ....nope can not find that word...

Yes and now SWMBO has I hope stopped doing these little swims around Islands (Not sure what is wrong with a swimming pool) I Might get some done..

John W E · « **Reply #16 on:** September 28, 2013, 08:19:43 pm »

Hi ya malcf
Look forward to seeing the build, but may I comment on your choice of motors? Avoid the Johnsons not unless you want the model to go like a low flying missile

and the battery life to last about 3 mins

. I myself have used these fan cooled Johnson motors before in the 1:48 scale Leeds Castle and they were driving through a 2 to 1 gearbox and boy could the Leeds Castle shift. Scale speed of about 300 mile per hour I think.

on a serious note though, have you thought about running on the Graupner 500 motors, the model you are building will be about 60 inches long, at 1:96 scale and I would image, Graupner 500 s on 6 volt will push this model along quite easily. These are the motors I fitted into HMS York and have no problem pushing this model along, the props are only about 35 ml diameter but they are scale 5 bladed props and also I have an ACTion P93 is it??? I cant remember - just back into this modelling scene you know

. This ACTion contraption aids the turning tremendously of the model and if your funds can stretch to it, I would advise getting one. I have put a link on to the York build I did, so you can have a look at the motors and the P93 set up.
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,15073.25.html
aye John

TheLongBuild · « **Reply #17 on:** September 28, 2013, 08:25:12 pm »

I have 2 x 777's for mine

malcf · « **Reply #18 on:** September 28, 2013, 10:02:14 pm »

Thanks for your suggestions lads it is early days yet as i am awaiting delivery of the hull,i def want a scale speed nothing more i was thinking about using 12 volt 7ah sla,s as i already have two of them in my tug boat probably being a bit tight fisted i suppose

will look into the 500,s 777,s and the 900,s.

Stu · « **Reply #19 on:** September 29, 2013, 11:13:40 am »

I may be able to help you as i have a spare set of 600's somewhere.

malcf · « **Reply #20 on:** September 29, 2013, 12:06:56 pm »

Hi Stu yes i am interested send me a pm.

malcf · « **Reply #21 on:** September 29, 2013, 07:35:45 pm »

The daughters boyfriend turned up earlier today with two Astra heater motors,i only mentioned them in passing yesterday it turns out he has a mate who breaks them i got the two for £15 so it looks like the choice has been made for me,they are a bit on the big side though and heavy will have to check prop centers had them connected up to an amp meter and they draw 1.8 amps on 12 volts, compared them with a Mfa Marlin 800 i have and that draws very similar amount but way louder,the mounts i will have to fabricate at work

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