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bat44

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« on: April 25, 2011, 10:10:03 pm »

if i painted my boat black would i see it at night
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Re: black
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2011, 10:24:47 pm »

The keys to the medicine cabinet are in the third drawer on the right  :P :P :P

The question has to be asked.................

1. Why do you want to paint your boat black?????

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2. Why do you want to sail it at night???

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Re: black
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2011, 12:32:56 am »

You will see it if you turn the lights on in the room where you have the boat.   :}
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Re: black
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2011, 06:38:02 am »

Yes if you used your echolocator   %% %% %%
Or Luminous Black  {-) {-)

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Re: black
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2011, 08:18:37 am »

Is it light Black or dark Black ?.

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Re: black
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2011, 08:36:26 am »

Could be pitch black!
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Re: black
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2011, 08:45:58 am »

if i painted my boat black would i see it at night

Yes

When sailing my boat at night I can see the silhouette.

The surface of the water will probably appear darker than the background landscape. As long as you can have the boat between you and the landscape/background, you will see it. Easier with a sail boat.
If there are lights in the background you will get reflection on the water surface, and you will see the boats silhouette against this as well.

There are not many places left in the world where it is truly dark anymore.
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Re: black
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2011, 09:39:23 am »

Methinks the obvious answers are,  %) %)
Painted black means you are able to carry out clandestine sailing manoeuvres at night and be unobserved  O0 O0 {-) {-) %% %%
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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2011, 09:49:52 am »

At the beginning of WW1, destroyers were painted black for night time operations.  It was soon found that while a black ship could be seen without too much trouble, various shades of grey were harder to see at night.
In total darkness, anything except luminous paint will be invisible.  In faint light, anything that is not the same shade as its surroundings will be visible, even if its only the wash you can see.  Nav lights are good
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Re: black
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2011, 10:33:12 am »

so what is the best shade of black to use for night time sailling and still be scale
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Yarpie

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Re: black
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2011, 10:45:44 am »

Undoubtedly "Henry Ford" black bat44. O0

Back in the early 1930's this was the most accepted shade of black, and was responsible for the cessation of the red flag waving 'outrider' in front of the motor car. Streetlighting was also in its infancy and HF's black could still be easily discerned in the murky gloom. So that would be my recommendation, Henry Ford black with a hint of weathering. %)

As for scale, I would suggest that you build 'in between scales' because if you build to an instantly recognisable scale the more proficient of the modelling fraternity will spot any ambiguities instantly and will no doubt criticise mercilessly. <*< .................







........... Well, you started it ............. :o {-)
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Re: black
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2011, 11:15:20 am »

thats wy i'm asking
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Re: black
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2011, 11:58:26 am »

"Enery Black" is an urban myth, they used whatever colo(u)r paint was available.

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Re: black
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2011, 02:19:15 pm »

I would suggest lightening black a bit. I have just painted the bottom of a Type VII U-Boat blackboard Black, with the intention of lightening it with Humbrol Tank Grey via an Airbrush. If this is for your RIB I would use a very Dark Grey on the 'inner tube' and a Satin or Matt Black on the 'Fibreglass' parts of the model. Dont darken the black, if you do, light itself will be unable to escape, and you, the model, the local lake and all the members will be sucked into a tiny Singularity..........."POP" :o
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Re: black
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2011, 07:10:04 pm »

hey bro just for making me read this  <*< <*< <*<
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Re: black
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2011, 04:35:23 pm »

yes ok but will i see it at night, all is it better to paint it another colour for night time sailing if so what would be the best colour and still be scale
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Re: black
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2011, 05:09:48 pm »

This all depends on the original colour, if it was orange then I would suggest using paint with an orange tint, likewise with blue and green, the same rule applies. As far as visibility at night, may I suggest ex-soviet miitary night vision goggles from "imnotapervertorstalker.co.ru". They are very discreet....aparently.
Or stick a miners helmet on your head, you can hold it on with nails %%
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Re: black
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2011, 07:07:15 pm »

....................... Or stick a miners helmet on your head, you can hold it on with nails %%

I have four in number 6" nails going spare ........................

Could be a final solution to this dilemma ...........................  :-)) %) :embarrassed: :D O0 {-) %%

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Re: black
« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2011, 09:55:18 pm »

 do i take it your rib will represent one of the mod types regularly seen around our waters ? they appear to be of a satin or matt finish , with a much smaller lighting hoop over the outboards than the rnli versions . will it make much difference what colour you paint it , when the navigation lights are working you will be able to work out its position !
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Re: black
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2011, 02:44:25 pm »

  In low light levels, as opposed to total darkness, a light colour will be more concealing. That's why many escort ships on the North Atlantic were predominantly white and the Germnas painted their night fighters a very pale grey
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Re: black
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2011, 03:49:53 pm »

Mr Bat have you never noticed when driving at dusk you get the odd plonker who does not know where their lightswitches are
and how hard it is to see their cars when they are grey or silver but a black car shows out far better against the background

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Re: black
« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2011, 05:17:08 pm »

Bat Car Black methinks

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Re: black
« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2011, 09:44:19 am »

Should one paint their Batboat black? I personally know the Caped Crusader and when I asked, he enquired "Would you be running it at 'Knight'?"
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Re: black
« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2011, 10:09:18 am »

I had an all black GSD a little while ago...gone now...Impossible to see him in the dark...which gave a few folk a nasty shock {-)

so no...don't paint your boat black  {-)
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Re: black
« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2011, 11:50:47 am »

Yes

When sailing my boat at night I can see the silhouette.

The surface of the water will probably appear darker than the background landscape. As long as you can have the boat between you and the landscape/background, you will see it. Easier with a sail boat.
If there are lights in the background you will get reflection on the water surface, and you will see the boats silhouette against this as well.

There are not many places left in the world where it is truly dark anymore.
There are ..if you are Blind,
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