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Re: RESEARCH VESSEL METEOR
« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2013, 01:38:08 PM »

Ralph
Its all been good info you have furnished and shows me i went the right way in getting it.

 Has also has helped in getting info on my next model the Scotia .
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« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2013, 03:20:36 PM »

Hello Martin,


do you mean this fisheries research vessel?

ShipSpotting.com

© Richard Paton


It's a beautiful ship too, and not that I want to dissuade you.
But our German Federal Office for Agriculture and Food also operates pretty interesting fishery protection vessels.

My personal favorite is the old MEERKATZE which was in service until she had been replaced by the follow-up MEERKATZE in 2009.

I have plans of both vessels, and I am sure that you can get them from the above linked ministery's fisheries shipping department if you ask them.

As for the old MEERKATZE, which in my view has the more womanly round flowing lines of a 70s ship design, you can even download her GA plan from Hempel's Shipping website
who run her today under the Name AQUARIUS as a research vessel.
Luckily they have introduced only little reconstructional changes that haven't spoiled her elegant silhouette during refurbishment,
and they applied an interesting orange livery onto her hull.


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© Andreas Spörri

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© swar0232


I also have already drawn her hull lines in DELFTship because I wanted to build a model of her,
but haven't yet managed to find time and resources to realize this project.

But the new series of fishery protection vessels aren't bad either.

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© Ulf Kornfeld

Of course, I couldn't resist to draw their hull lines as well.
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Re: RESEARCH VESSEL METEOR
« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2013, 03:45:21 PM »

Hi Ralph

Yes that right see pic I've got the hull and plans picture on dvd from Aberdeen and Help From David Tait ( cheers David) All ready to build when I finish the Meteor. I am seriously thinking  of building the hull as plank and frame I think I have enough knowledge to have a go. There is so many but I went for a Scottish boat

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Re: RESEARCH VESSEL METEOR
« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2013, 09:59:49 PM »

First 2 pics are plan tracing to mark up next upper decks
Front opening for battery Rx fitting places
Middle deck opening for ESC and rudder servo access
Rear deck opening access to motor and prop oiler and to check rods haven't got bent
Hatch offered up to see if it fits below it is rubber bands glued to inside edges to create a water seal 
Hatch finished screwed in place.
The little pieces of square on last two picture are guides and supportsfor the edges of next deck up
 
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Re: RESEARCH VESSEL METEOR
« Reply #29 on: November 29, 2013, 04:29:02 PM »

more pics of build
1st A look into the front opening shows the Rx in place and the battery tray. made for a 12volt 7 amp size battery
2nd Forecastle deck datum lined and measured up for position of bulwark support pins.
3rd  Pins in place and at correct angles
4th Template in the  making for the Bulwark around the deck
5th Template different pic I noticed that the paper used,  had to be tight up against the model's side to  give a true template
6th  Finished template with some jotted down references
7th Card cut out of template offering up to see if it was a good fit

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Re: RESEARCH VESSEL METEOR
« Reply #30 on: December 02, 2013, 03:46:16 PM »

1.Offering bulwark to deck to be trimmed to fit.
2. This is a better fit little more trimming to do.
3. Final fit and glue to the support pins.
4. Slipway be built up to correct angle.
5.Cover plate cut to size and wood edging  supports glue in place. Rubber bands glued on top of these to seal this compartment. Will allow access if rudder / servo arm needs attention.
6. Cover plate in place screwed down on seal. Lines on deck for bulwark  layout and support pins in place. 
 
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Re: RESEARCH VESSEL METEOR
« Reply #31 on: December 03, 2013, 09:44:37 AM »

1. Bulwark support brass pins in position on rear deck soon to be come the Working Deck
2. Starting to glue Bulwarks into place
3. Bulwarks completed note the plasticard slivers inside them to hide the pins and to look like inside supports Top fitted (railing) and a little clean up.
4. Bulwarks on the Starboard side. Also 2 cargo hatches built.
5. Forecastle deck bulwarks almost finished with the hatch offered up.
6. Other view of deck a little tidy up here is needed.

Picture 0309 you'll see I have started on the cabins on the Port Side of the Work deck
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Re: RESEARCH VESSEL METEOR
« Reply #32 on: December 03, 2013, 01:00:12 PM »

1. Bulwark support brass pins in position on rear deck soon to be come the Working Deck

Hi Martin,

how are those brass pins fixed to the deck?
Just squeezed and glued into drilled support holes?
I wonder how such mounting/fixture withstands the tension and bending stresses introduced by i.e. the focsle bulwark while the glue hasn't dried?
I would have thought that it teared off the pins.

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Re: RESEARCH VESSEL METEOR
« Reply #33 on: December 03, 2013, 01:27:05 PM »

hi ya there Ralph, I have been watching this build and not intervening as it is Martins build.  When Martin first begun this project it was well over 10 years ago and information on this vessel was very difficult to obtain, there were few photographs and plans if any available.  When Martin approached me with regard to help I spent a long time with Martin trying to research this vessel, even with my contacts I have at Maritime Museum, John Lamberts and others - at that time they all drew blanks.  So I opted to draw, using what information I had - a new set of plans to work from.  I produced the hull to prove the plans would work and then passed that along with other information back to Martin - Martin was handed a blank canvas.   
 
I have seen the model in the raw shall we say, as almost finished and with the amount of detail he has accomplished on this model - I myself have one regret the hull should have been built at twice the scale it is.  As far as the bulwarks and the brass pins are concerned, I and several other people have used this method for over 30 years of modelling - and I myself have had no problems with this form of attaching the bulwarks to the brass pins as long as the plywood is steamed and bent into shape.  If you would like further information on this process, cast your eye over the Master build section of this here forum and have a look at the fishing trawler the Spashett build and also the tug Cervia build.   You will see the same process being used there - and they are still in tact having been abused/thrown in the lake by mishandling as I normally do by onself!!
 
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Re: RESEARCH VESSEL METEOR
« Reply #34 on: December 03, 2013, 01:50:30 PM »

Hi Ralph
The pin holes are drilled as close to the edge as possible or the width of the wood used for the Bulwarks.  Which allows using the strip of wood underneath joining the deck to the frames as a further support.. Up at the bow cause of the angle the pins are bent away from the frames to stop them popping through the side. allowing more length of pin. Inserted pins with super glue on them. A little smearing of wood workers glue PVA  is used on the bottom of the Bulwark  to deck as a further support. They are very strong Bulwarks. A little home made wood gauge is used to determine the correct height of the pins. And the plastic pieces that are glued to the pins on the inside are tacked in place with super glue then a good coat of PVA to hide pins give a greater pin support. I believe this is the best way for a really strong assembly.

Regards
Martin

John I now know what you mean about bell wire got some and it does go through the links on the 42 links per inch chain link I bought. Also your right about burning  off the superglue and araldite. The chain pieces can be reused Cheers Martin 

Picture of stern using plasticard. looks rough but sprayed up looking good.
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Re: RESEARCH VESSEL METEOR
« Reply #35 on: December 05, 2013, 03:08:12 PM »

1. Top view lets us see that all running gear can be got at includes the screwed down hatch work deck
2. Port cabins waiting to have the doors fitted and just to let you see it comes of for access
3. Next deck up not to bad a shape to do
4.. Top off deck in pic 2 offered up to be trimmed to shape and size.
5.. Different view with the template in position for the work deck shape this will be planked.
6. And the next deck up from pic 2. it went together O.K.
7. Port side view and the Revell plastic model.  This part of build went well considering we had to allow for gaining access into the model.
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Re: RESEARCH VESSEL METEOR
« Reply #36 on: December 10, 2013, 09:47:59 PM »

Various views of the Bridge build.
Pic 5  the template for the roof of bridge and pic 7 and 8 the ply top which is cut to size and offered up.
Next Bridge Wind Deflector
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Re: RESEARCH VESSEL METEOR
« Reply #37 on: December 11, 2013, 07:14:16 PM »

Construction of the Bridge's Wind  Deflector
1. Picture of plan
2-5  various stages of build
6. In position checking to see if it is fitting correctly.

I used templates till the fit was good. Then ply copies glued in place. First time I have built something with so many angles and tapered shapes
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Re: RESEARCH VESSEL METEOR
« Reply #38 on: December 11, 2013, 09:11:41 PM »

Wow, nice job Seaspray, and with a hull by John and bracket machining by Peter (R.I.P) this model is a showpiece for the craftsmanship of our forum members. It would be an honour to be asked to help by building some component, any other takers? I mean, if Seaspray agrees, we could help to bring part 2 of this build to to a close in less than another 10 years I'm sure.
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Re: RESEARCH VESSEL METEOR
« Reply #39 on: December 11, 2013, 09:33:44 PM »

Hi cdsc123
How is the weather at the Rock
The model has only the mast to build and paint it. I just decided  to do the whole build on Mayhem as I felt it needed to be done.
Many thanks for the offer but I am now fully fit back home in Scotland and retired. I have loads of time and hopefully will be sailing her at Newcastle in early summer.

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Re: RESEARCH VESSEL METEOR
« Reply #40 on: December 11, 2013, 09:43:46 PM »

Hi Martin


Ah good, glad to hear it and I look forward to seeing more of the build.


More easterly gales here at the moment, very heavy clouds but no rain as the warm Med air holds it's moisture very well.


Entertainment being provided by brave yachtsmen who keep full sails up in the gusty lee of the Rock, interesting to see their keels fully out of the water.


Best regards,
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Re: RESEARCH VESSEL METEOR
« Reply #41 on: December 12, 2013, 10:13:43 PM »

1. More work on the Bridge roof I think this is called the Fly Bridge where the mast sits on. 

2.The Work Deck which  is removable to gain access to motor / shaft , ESC  and rudder servo horn. So it was made of ply that was planked. Here is the card template is place to get the correct shape and dimensions.

3. The ply base traced from the card template is to be planked. Sorry can't remember the type of wood. Final  to check fit, looks good.

4.Started to stain the deck but wasn't happy with it  Used another method of staining with coffee and teabags which work out  giving the desired finish.

 
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« Reply #42 on: December 12, 2013, 11:36:51 PM »

1. More work on the Bridge roof I think this is called the Fly Bridge where the mast sits on. 

2.The Work Deck which  is removable to gain access to motor / shaft , ESC  and rudder servo horn. So it was made of ply that was planked. Here is the card template is place to get the correct shape and dimensions.

3. The ply base traced from the card template is to be planked. Sorry can't remember the type of wood. Final  to check fit, looks good.

4.Started to stain the deck but wasn't happy with it  Used another method of staining with coffee and teabags which work out  giving the desired
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Re: RESEARCH VESSEL METEOR
« Reply #43 on: December 13, 2013, 09:44:33 PM »

Continuing on the Work deck construction

1.The planked deck is offered in place to check it is a good fit as it might have expanded with staining.

2. Next 2 pictures are showing the area around the slipway (white wood parts) This area is going to be planked and isn't removable because the A frame support  are there.  A ply template made then planked both glue in place. This makes the whole deck area level.

3. The final look of the deck stained to the desire affect.

4. Final fit on model

I didn't for one minute think that using coffee and/or teabag would stain the planking.
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Re: RESEARCH VESSEL METEOR
« Reply #44 on: December 14, 2013, 02:41:05 PM »

Hope you have enjoyed the old build so far. Me I am hanging up my modelling tools till after the New Year. More picture after the festive season   

So with that I wish you all Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

Hope Santa is good to you.

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Re: RESEARCH VESSEL METEOR
« Reply #45 on: December 17, 2013, 10:24:36 PM »

By request more pics of the build.

1. All the model 2 coats of sanding sealer and rubbed down. Looking carefully at the Forecastle Deck you will see the mark up for the raised hatch on this deck.
2. These are the brass etch window frames  from John R Haynes. Many thanks John.
3. Some of the details being put on to the superstructure.
4. The Funnel built and offered into position.
5. Funnel paint and Meteor badge glued. Made from an image lifted of the net and re sized using Paint Shop Pro 7. 
 
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Re: RESEARCH VESSEL METEOR
« Reply #46 on: December 21, 2013, 09:42:08 PM »

One last picture to finish off the year

The bath test. A  good wash from the prop and no leaks sits straight up in the water. But as the build continued there were a few unsuspected changes to come.
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Re: RESEARCH VESSEL METEOR
« Reply #47 on: December 22, 2013, 03:30:37 PM »

Hi John I forgot to bring the Mast over for you to look at. So here it is.

More pictures the Mast build

1. The Plan and the wood from a piece of floor brush shaft to make Radar Doom.
2. Mast parts on Forecastle Deck temporary glue together to see if they  looks right.
3. Starting to solder all parts together
4. From an other angle.
5. All soldered and sprayed
6. Side view and sprayed with varnish.
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Re: RESEARCH VESSEL METEOR
« Reply #48 on: December 22, 2013, 09:17:17 PM »

The two raised hatches one on the Forecastle Deck and the other on the Work Deck  sprayed up and varnished

Currently planning the build of the  Main Mast

Thats it till the new year
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Re: RESEARCH VESSEL METEOR
« Reply #49 on: January 15, 2014, 07:23:45 PM »

More build pictures
1. The hull primed and all bad surfaces  sandpapered smooth
2. The red base primer sprayed on to the water line
3. Top red coat sprayed and left for a week to cure.
4. The blue coat sprayed and it left for a week too.
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