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[rayna]

  hi can anyone point me to details of the launch trolley. I am hoing to set up a slipway etc. for a 1:16 model
thanks
Rayna

[Neil]

be handy if people knew where you lived ranya........you might find that if you put in your profile where you are, someone local to you could offer help.

[furball]

What do you mean by launching trolley?

If they were slipway launched (like Sennen Cove) they ran directly down the slip - if carriage launched (Hoylake, Margate), then they were towed out on the tracked carriage.


Lance

[rayna]

  hi again I am in New Zealand so nobody handy. Margate lifeboat is the one of interest "Silver Jubilee" 37-33.
thanks
Rayna

[baloo]

Hi a couple of questions,where abouts in new zealand and the launch trolly !! something like this

[Norseman]

hi again I am in New Zealand so nobody handy.

We have members in NZ Rayna - I know at least one is friendy - sent me some info on the Kinabalu

Dave

[Netleyned]

Hi a couple of questions,where abouts in new zealand and the launch trolly !! something like this

The Margate boat was carriage launched

Ned

[baloo]

Well the thought was there ned

[rayna]

 
hi yes plenty of friendlies but no one has the details. I am in Hamilton. Wha'st that about Kinambalu? I have amodel of her part built.
So we are carriage launched so any info on what form that carriage takes? Love the pics thanks. Some modeller has already do the business.
Rayna

[Neil]

If you have a look here, and then contact the station they might be able to help with photos of what you want.
neil.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&tok=lpG89NI4AvzzZBIYbGpi0g&cp=27&gs_id=2y&xhr=t&q=wells+next+the+sea+lifeboat&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&biw=1152&bih=577&wrapid=tljp1346573952727052&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=jxZDUMX7EarE0QXvxIH4DQ

or go onto any RNLI  station that has had a Rother ( sadly something I'm not knowledgeable about), but could find out.

[Norseman]

Hi Rayna

SS Kinabalu was the vessel I mentioned and you say/type Kinambalu? Different?
Ony found an old picture and a small model magazine article on the Kinabalu.

Dave

[gribeauval]

The carriage for the Margate Rother lifeboat was the predecessor of the current Mersey Class carriage built by Clayton Engineering and was almost the same.

Try contacting them and see what happens.

http://www.claytonengineering.co.uk/equipmentitem/4d78ea5a43683/FCB-Carriage

Mike

[rayna]

  And again thank you all but must say i am a bit more confused.
I was told that Margate Rother was slipway launched? and my query (uneducated colonial!) was along the lines that i thought that there would have been a "carriage/sled/trolley" under the lifeboat between it and the slipway structure.
Now "gribeauval" shows me details of a beach trolley for tractor deployment. So Question is which for "silver Jubilee" slipway or beach trolley. I had hoped it would be the slipway for effect and display creation.

Now "Norseman" yes thatnks for the picture it is the East India ship I have part refurbished. Unfortunately the original builder got the proportion of the central deck structure wrong and left insufficient room for the lifeboats which he shortened to suit. Result "orrible" to da scale modeller. on a lot of models the lifeboats suffer.
regards all
Rayna

[heritorasphodel]

Margate's Rother, ON 1046 Silver Jubilee (37-33) was carriage launched across the beach.
Walmer's ON 1024 Hampshire Rose (37-32) was launched down a partial slipway, then across the beach.
Sennen Cove's ON 999 Diana White (37-28) was entirely slipway launched. There is no trolley or carriage between the boat and the slipway, aside from those stations (I'm not certain which ones) where the boat was carriage launched down a short slipway.

Andrew

[Neil]

I'll have a look in my Oakley lifeboats book a little later.......can't at mo as am filling a paddling pool from morrisons to test a boat........but it seams my daughter has hyjacked the b****** thing,

[heritorasphodel]

The slipway launched Rothers were -

ON 998 Osman Gabriel (37-27) at Port Erin
ON 999 Diana White (37-28) at Sennen Cove
ON 1023 J Reginald Corah (37-31) at Swanage
ON 1047 Horace Clarkson (37-34) at Moelfre
ON 1054 Shoreline (37-36) at Blyth and Arbroath
ON 1064 The Davys Family (37-39) at Shoreham Harbour.

37-29, -33,  and -35 were carriage launched, while 37-32, -37 and -40 used skids on the beach.

Margate lifeboat was slipway launched until 1978 when the pier was heavily damaged in a storm.

Andrew

[Neil]

cheers andrew........saves me a lot of reading

[rayna]

  Brilliant . Thanks all for the replies but I still need to know. Do ramp launched lifeboats run directly upon the ramp skids OR does it run on a trolley or whatever down the ramp.
thanks all
Rayna

[rnli12]

Hi,

The Rothers ran on the groves on the slipway, I dont know of any slipway launched  lifeboat that had a trolley or any mechanisim fitted between the groves and boat.

Rich

[Neil]

Rayna.........have a study of the carriage that gribeauval posted.

1) the four loops that are on te two "black" skids were/are for holding the boat onto the carriage via  quick release slip links , and are disconnected on launch by four crewmen simultaniously hammering out the slip pin holding the boat to the carriage.
just before launch, the black skids on which the bilge skegs of the boat are sat, raise at an angle for the boat to launch, and the boat launches down the skids which form the "launching slip"...........please note that the tracters that drive these launching carrieages are completely watertight and can go off the beach until they are almost submerged.

On retrieval of the boat the boat actually drives itself onto the beach,  rolling skids are put under the keel and she is drawn back onto carriage via a powerfull winch mounted on the tracter, and fed through Ruffle holes in the boat's deadwood at either bow or stern.

look at some pics on google/youtube and you'll be able to see the process.

neil.
 

[heritorasphodel]

Hi Rich,

There were a couple of stations, like Tynemouth and Appledore, that had an iron trolley under the boat. These were because the 40' self righters they both had were fairly narrow and unstable on the slipway. These were both pre-WW2 - Tynemouth's took a direct hit in the war, which destroyed the boathouse and the boat.



Andrew

[Netleyned]

Don't hold your breath but I think I drove past a carriage rusty and no tracks but looking very much
like Mike's drawing on Grimsby fish docks yesterday
It triggered something in my brain as I drove past.
Will pop down in the morning with a camera and if
it is one we shall have some photos.

Ned

[rayna]

  Its great how the threads bring out  all sorts of interesting stuff. Thanks to all of you who have responded. Now have pretty well all the answers needed.
Raynor J

[Netleyned]

Sorry, but I was mistaken.
The trolley was quite diffetent up cloae

Ned

[Norseman]

So you're off your trolley now Ned?