thanks colin it might be a week or so before I get to a position to test run motors I am also trying to find out the manufacturer of my kit its a fibreglass hull all metal turrets and barrels seaplane on deck quite an awesome thing just needs some tlc well quite a lot but im looking forward to the day I can sail it again any help would be appreciated speed controllers im thinking 50amp rather overkill than risk any damage its a twin rudder model they are already installed thanks again I really do appreciate any help or hints at all cheers andy