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Re: USS Melvin Lindberg Kit R/C Conversion
« Reply #125 on: September 13, 2012, 09:36:29 AM »

I had a look in the black arts section but couldn't see it? Do you have a link? Thanks.
Sorry - the radio section, but thats fairly near.
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=39490.0
There are plenty of other threads where the subject gets a mention, some in black arts, some in radio, some in escs, and it needs a bit of reading through since the heading subject doesn't always indicate the actual content of the thread.
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Re: USS Melvin Lindberg Kit R/C Conversion
« Reply #126 on: September 14, 2012, 10:30:56 AM »

HI Guys

I'm Back  :-))

Finally had time to read through everything I've missed. I wont reply to everything but just say everyone is very welcome to post on this thread I think its great to see and hear our peoples work in place long may it continue. those of us daft enough to try and build a nice Lindberg model need to stick together lol.

Well I have managed to sneak off to workshop this week and decided make bilge keels for her. They look very very thin on the pics Harquebus posted I have opted to use 1mm plastic card cut in 6mm strips from the long edge of a A4 sheet which is approximately the correct Length. One of my books as a nice drawing showing the position. I use a UK 1 pence coin as template to draw round and filed a rounded ends to both strakes. I also sand a 45 degree angle to long edge that attaches to the hull to assist in getting the right angle and give a greater surface area for gluing this a stronger joint.

Carefully positioning using a engineers square to get angle and blu tak to hold in place using liquid plastic weld glue the stake in position remember there is a slight upwards angle from mid point forward. Doesn't show well in pics.











Next stage will be checking everything ready for paint I will leave the railings and nets to she's fully tested as these can be damaged very easily
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Re: USS Melvin Lindberg Kit R/C Conversion
« Reply #127 on: September 14, 2012, 11:09:34 AM »

The perspective exaggerates the size of the dome, but yes, it is mounted forward of the No.1 Turret:

I think I will incorporate one into my planned build, just to be "xxxxx".

I assume its not that big on a model of this size, and does not appear to be midships, but possibly casting it in lead to aid the models stability may be an idea?
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Re: USS Melvin Lindberg Kit R/C Conversion
« Reply #128 on: September 14, 2012, 12:28:26 PM »

Managed to build the dome.
Yes I agree it will aid in the Fletcher's ballasting. It consisted of a concrete mixture that came out of another ship so I just had to file it to shape. I shall mount it tomorrow. I will then do the sides of the Hull with stabilizers.Glad for the picture so now I know where to Mountbatten. Good job Glen.
I am waiting for paint still. They tell me the hold up is they are waiting for kit of USS Missouri as they ran out of stock. This is included in my paint order. I have ordered a smoke unit and also she now has working searchlights. Looks good.
Ok Glen will pm you this weekend I did I thought but it went to Martin instead. Good ar'nt I?
Ok will plod and have really only to fit up the twin rudders and will take the Hull down to the billabong to see how she is going so far.
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Re: USS Melvin Lindberg Kit R/C Conversion
« Reply #129 on: September 14, 2012, 01:05:48 PM »

It appears now that their is a difference of opinions really regarding single rudder versus twin rudders on these here Fletcher's. If single rudder why do I need to fix the twin rudders? Can someone advise please?
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Re: USS Melvin Lindberg Kit R/C Conversion
« Reply #130 on: September 14, 2012, 03:51:38 PM »

charles remember your building a working model designed to seen on water above to waterline. twin rudders while not whats on the real thing will give better manoveurabillity handy at low speed or in tight spots. Single rudder while authentic will just like the real ships give you poor handling at any speed unless you fitt expensive mixer and a esc for each motor.

I'm not bothering with the sonar dome as unless its sinks it won't be seen
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Re: USS Melvin Lindberg Kit R/C Conversion
« Reply #131 on: September 14, 2012, 09:23:49 PM »

Glen yes I know anyhow I will take a chance then and not rework it again. I will keep single and use twins on Nimitz where they will be good for her manouvering.
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Re: USS Melvin Lindberg Kit R/C Conversion
« Reply #132 on: September 14, 2012, 10:42:46 PM »

Hey Glen,
Just a quick question, I have never used etching parts before, what did you use to fix the parts, is it super glue?
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Re: USS Melvin Lindberg Kit R/C Conversion
« Reply #133 on: September 15, 2012, 06:28:12 AM »

You are at my command, you will keep adding missing details to the monstrosity (I mean your Blue Devil) that I find and it will never end... (maniacal laughing)

I think the sonar dome is "canoe shaped" fore to aft for better hydrodynamics. The term I used that got censored has to do with the end of the alimentary canal and in the context I meant means "excessive attention to detail". A little bit of Freudian psychoanalysis folks, nothing to be alarmed at.
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Re: USS Melvin Lindberg Kit R/C Conversion
« Reply #134 on: September 15, 2012, 06:33:29 AM »

HAHAHA I'm afraid my sonar dome is a wee bit big for a sonar dome, so I will change my story and say Concrete ballast extra long sonar dome Hmmmmm.
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Re: USS Melvin Lindberg Kit R/C Conversion
« Reply #135 on: September 15, 2012, 06:34:02 AM »

Hi Charles

Yes mate. You get different viscosities (runniness) for etch work I use the high (thick not very runny) vicosity appling it with a cocktail stick and use a spray accerator to set it instantly. However there are times when solder is the best option
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Re: USS Melvin Lindberg Kit R/C Conversion
« Reply #136 on: September 15, 2012, 06:37:26 AM »

Thanks Glen,
Looks like a Hobby king order coming up.
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Re: USS Melvin Lindberg Kit R/C Conversion
« Reply #137 on: September 15, 2012, 06:45:43 AM »

Armo61, I think you should fit all 3 rudders.  :-) Have your Devil be a test bed for rudder testing. It would serve us all very well. So: plug the holes for the twin rudder setup, try one rudder, remove it and plug the hole and then try it with twins fitted.

Then mount all three and be done with it. Think of the possibilities...  O0

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Re: USS Melvin Lindberg Kit R/C Conversion
« Reply #138 on: September 15, 2012, 06:49:19 AM »

Very very good,
Give me some of what you are on and make my day haha
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Re: USS Melvin Lindberg Kit R/C Conversion
« Reply #139 on: September 15, 2012, 06:34:51 PM »

Hi guys

At last she ready for painting next time you her she'll be blue















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Re: USS Melvin Lindberg Kit R/C Conversion
« Reply #140 on: September 15, 2012, 09:50:42 PM »



Beautiful.  What a lovely piece of engineering.     :-))

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Re: USS Melvin Lindberg Kit R/C Conversion
« Reply #141 on: September 21, 2012, 08:51:35 AM »

Very nice conversion....Can't wait to see it in paint!...

Alan :-))
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Re: USS Melvin Lindberg Kit R/C Conversion
« Reply #142 on: September 21, 2012, 11:26:05 PM »

I have to agree with all the above...   :-))

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Re: USS Melvin Lindberg Kit R/C Conversion
« Reply #143 on: September 22, 2012, 12:44:04 PM »

Hi Guys

Thanks very much for the nice comments. I'm very pleased with her so far its almost a shame to paint her.

Painting stage 1

Priming the whole model grey I use halford grey primer





After the primer has had 24 hours to dry I used a small engineering square, HB pencil some tape and blu tak to make a height gauge to draw on the water line ready to mask up and paint the anti fouling





will show more pics after each stage
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Re: USS Melvin Lindberg Kit R/C Conversion
« Reply #144 on: September 23, 2012, 01:57:08 PM »

Looking good there Glen,
All that work is nearly finished matey. It is a shame to cover the brass work but at least all of us know whats underneath the paint dont we? or do we hahaha. Great work mate. :-))
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Re: USS Melvin Lindberg Kit R/C Conversion
« Reply #145 on: September 25, 2012, 12:07:05 AM »

She is really looking fine.  I re-read your thread to see if you are modeling the Melvin herself or another Fletcher class destroyer.  I have been  thinking about the best color scheme.  I painted my original Melvin per the kit instructions and I am partial to that type of camouflage -- variations of Measure 31, per this site:  http://nautilusmodels.com/camouflage.htm.  However, I do recall that the measure 31 does a great job of what it was intended to do -- breaking up the ship's lines.  I particularly noticed that when she was at any distance during her free-running days.

The Measure 22, such as is worn on the USS Kidd shows off the ship's lines, but isn't quite as colorful or interesting, and I find the solid schemes even less colorful and interesting.

Anyway, I am just curious about the final color scheme you intend to use on your model.  I am sure that it well be a real masterpiece, and I look forward to seeing her on the water.

PeeJay (Pete G.)
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Re: USS Melvin Lindberg Kit R/C Conversion
« Reply #146 on: September 25, 2012, 07:26:35 AM »

Hi Peejay

I'm modelling uss melvin during her entire war service she wore measure 21 camoflauge navy blue all over. hence her nick name the blue devil
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Re: USS Melvin Lindberg Kit R/C Conversion
« Reply #147 on: September 25, 2012, 06:18:00 PM »

Thanks.  She should look really good.  Looking forward to the next report.

PeeJay
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Re: USS Melvin Lindberg Kit R/C Conversion
« Reply #148 on: September 28, 2012, 11:23:06 AM »

Your welcome peejay

Painting update

Well guys as you can see I Done the anti fouling and decks now.

For the anti fouling I used Halfords red primer this a very close match to anti fouling paint used b most navies. While Halfords spray paints can be a little expensive they do I find produce a fine finish.

For the decks I used Humbrol Matt 67 tank grey which according to a conversion chart I found is the equivalent of us navy deck blue 20-B

http://www.shipcamouflage.com/measure_21.htm

http://www.paint4models.com/

You will also notice I have add the ships name to the stern. The reason for doing it now is during my research I noticed the ships carried there names embossed on the stern I also noticed that most during the war years where left in place but paint over. By using 3mm self adhesive lettering I hope to replicate this and Melvin will proudly where her name on the stern embossed in navy blue







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Re: USS Melvin Lindberg Kit R/C Conversion
« Reply #149 on: September 28, 2012, 11:26:24 AM »

Nice work mate keep goin. I never got a reply really bits and pieces yet from PM?
Charles
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