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Author Topic: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.  (Read 448997 times)

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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #575 on: May 07, 2012, 10:55:04 am »
My sympathy goes to Andrew re using mouldable material for seating items. Tried it on a stand once, used sellotape on the hull - with a lick of vaseline on the surface, laid up the filler on the locating edges of the stand, bedded in the hull and left to harden off...........NOT a good idea! despite the grease coating, the hull was stuck like the proverbial to the stand and with a modicum of brute force I finally got the hull off the stand including the sellotape and filler! There was obviously some serious reaction from the filler and what a mess, I had a right game to remove and clean up the hull {:-{

             Sorry Neil, back to you!
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #576 on: May 07, 2012, 11:49:42 am »
no probs, Tony......

I only ever use it ( other than as a filler) for glueing.........as a moulding compound I'll always use Milliput, which does come away with cling film.

Polyester filler has a solvent in it ( as does any polyester resin based produce.that will desolve into and eat into most things if left un impeded.

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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #577 on: May 07, 2012, 04:20:44 pm »
Filler primer now applied. I'll give them all another coat of this tonight before I turn in, and then will give a couple of either white or grey primer tomorrow before setting about them all with wet and dry.
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #578 on: May 08, 2012, 08:54:14 am »
Primary coloured primers now added.......will need a couple more coats before rubbing down with 800 grade wet and dry.
Wht the different colours......??

Well, the Grey primer on the Mary Stanford is because her anti fouling is a green lead colour, as she was an "afloat" boat in Ballycotton Harbour, and topside is ford Galaxy Blue....a slightly darker shade of blue to the other two boats, and therefore will take a darker under primer.

The H F Bailey and the "Smuts" both have a white underhull as they were both slipway launched and boat house stored, and with a lighter Oxford Blue hull they will take a white under primer.

All boats will be given more coats of under primer before the final colours are added.
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #579 on: May 09, 2012, 12:58:07 pm »
First coat of colour.....AT LAST!!!.........

After wet and drying the grey primer down this morning, I decided to spray the green lead underside of the Mary Stanford with the nearest match I could find to the old green lead colour I had.....Halford's Ford Laural green.
I decided to spray in the windless open air garden rather than in my dusty workshop....and just after starting, the wind picked up, but I got the area's that are in nicks and crannies done first, and will go out in a few minutes to give an overall coat.
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #580 on: May 09, 2012, 01:11:47 pm »
the first of 4 full coats.this was the prefered lead oxide anti fouling of the RNLI in the first third of the last century for afloat boats kept in harbours rather than in a boat house for slip launching.
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #581 on: May 09, 2012, 02:13:48 pm »
well......it had to happen.......glorious sunshine this morning....and then just as I put the first coat in, it starts spitting with rain....... as usual.........if it's not dust, in the workshop then it's rain, lol.........so needs must.....got out the gazebo that I haven't used because of the c r a p summers the last four years......guess what...can't find the top sheet...........U N B E L E I V A B L E !!!!!!.....so again mother of all invention and all that..................I have used my old classic car cover for the "roof"....worked well and off a spraying I will go, lol
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #582 on: May 09, 2012, 02:33:45 pm »
I find the same, the paint always seems to find dirt or rain as its drying off!

Looks well though!  :-))
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #583 on: May 09, 2012, 03:09:18 pm »
cheers Dan........it doesn't look too bad.....all the nasty bits are under the watter, lol {-) {-) {-) {-)
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #584 on: May 09, 2012, 03:18:11 pm »
take note all you people who take the p**s out of Neils workshop-- he knew where to find his Gazebo and cover,and he is well trained to take the washing in also( I expect he will be told off later about the green overspray on the best tablecloth!!) Nice one Neil
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #585 on: May 09, 2012, 03:33:08 pm »
luick has saved me...we were still using the christmas cloth that is green and red festive..........and if you believe that....you'll believe rottweiler..... {-) {-) {-) {-)
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #586 on: May 09, 2012, 05:01:37 pm »
Not completely so rottweiler - he couldn't find his gazebo cover ........................ not exactly hanky size is it!!!!!!!!!!!!     I rest my case! {-) {-) {-) {-)
        Ok Ok so I'll add my name to the list of cleaning volunteers   %% %% - so long as I get an invite to the maiden voyages - fair enough? O0 {-)

                          Am genuinely impressed - great stuff neil. :-))  Regards, me.

      P.S. my notifications still aint working - a hunting I have to go. {:-{
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #587 on: May 09, 2012, 05:51:49 pm »
Quote from: tt1 on May 09, 2012, 05:01:37 pm
so long as I get an invite to the maiden voyages - fair enough? O0 {-)

                          . {:-{
Meet at Etherow in June Tony and you can sail all three, lol
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #588 on: May 10, 2012, 01:56:19 pm »
So much for a british summer...... <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:(

Back to the drawing board with my portable spray booth.........and the ground is under 3" of water..............so much for spraying al fresco!!! {:-{ {:-{ {:-{ {:-{
Now, what can I do inside my dusty shed whilst my lawn feeds the water table of this country and lessens our drought conditions.
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #589 on: May 10, 2012, 04:16:47 pm »
It was lovely weather in the morning, think I brought the rain with me, sorry. I was in Neils workshop yesterday and made it out alive, lol. Everything in it's place and a place for everything, wish I had one like it.

The photos don't do the 3 Lifeboats justice, they're going to look wonderful on the water when finished. I much prefer the character and lines of the older classic lifeboats over the CAD designed slabs of the modern boats, maybe I'm just getting old!

Keep up the good work, Dave.  :-))
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #590 on: May 10, 2012, 04:35:52 pm »
WATCH IT! Dave's after something as well Neil,proving your workshop is environmentally friendly Lol. I agree about the Lifeboats tho!
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #591 on: May 10, 2012, 04:55:56 pm »
Quote from: rottweiler on May 10, 2012, 04:35:52 pm
WATCH IT! Dave's after something as well Neil,proving your workshop is environmentally friendly Lol. I agree about the Lifeboats tho!
Mick F

Lol, I didn't mention the gazebo. Looks a bit of a disaster area, I'll bring mine to Ethrow anyway....   :-))
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #592 on: May 10, 2012, 09:07:31 pm »
Quote from: Number 6 on May 10, 2012, 04:55:56 pm
Looks a bit of a disaster area,

even bigger disaster is that I plugged the submersable pump on, that I use to drain the sink trap in the garden, and it tripped out the whole house electrics...........so not only have I a knackered gazebo, a flooded garden that I can't drain, and therefore it's a no go area for us all.but I now have to go out tomorrow and buy a new submersable pump and wire it all in.......Me and electrics just don't mix.......AT ALL!!!
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #593 on: May 10, 2012, 09:41:45 pm »
Might have been your electric shower that tripped it all mate {-) {-) {-)
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #594 on: May 11, 2012, 09:21:57 am »
Whilst I have been in conversation of the ex crew member of "Smuts" he told me that there was a rear pen to the rope bins, and so have added that. Whilst doing the measuring up for this, I found that my preliminary position for the funnel,vents and decklights were too far forward by around 15mm and so, whilst waiting for better weather, I set about doing the changes yesterday.......made the rear pen front rails, and re positioned the holes for the deck lights and funnel, by filling the originals by putting a strip of plasticard inside the grp moulding , held to the moulding with polyester resin, and then sanding smooth before re painting and here are the results.
there is some slight disagreement about the inner longitudinal rails and their length, going back to the cockpit, but looking at photos, I can't see this. also the short rear rails of the bins..........should they be there or shouldn't they............well, for structural purposes on the model, they'll have to stay there (even if not on the real boat) for if I were to take them out, I feer the whole structure would be very much weakened, and so using modellers license, they are staying put.
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #595 on: May 13, 2012, 06:46:58 pm »
well! I've given up on this british summer already......a drought order in most parts of the country, and it's done nothing but persist itself for the last few days since I decided to spray outside......just can't believe it.
So after a brief spell of decent weather between downpours I today wet and dried the two Watson hulls ready for spraying.
Then I had the brainwave ( not common for me) that my mate has a large very clean and tidy garage where he used to restore and spray his Austin 7's, and after a phone call I am taking them down to his place tomorrow morning for spraying over the next few days.........hopefully without any drama.
So this afternoon I also masked off the lower hull of the Mary Stanford ready for spraying the upper hull with Oxford blue.
I used Frog tape delicate for the actual masking, so will see what sort of line this gives once removed.
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #596 on: May 13, 2012, 08:39:03 pm »
It will be interesting to see the results of this new Frog tape. Even on my 19 foot Cygnus Fishing Boat,using masking tape,I have always preferred to use a very narrow type,which follows the curve of the boat without the little rucks and folds which  using a wider tape tape causes,so hopefully avoiding the dreaded "bleeding" I understand this type of tape forms some kind of gel barrier ?
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #597 on: May 13, 2012, 09:39:01 pm »
I used it on my Flying Christine, Mick..and got superb results.
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #598 on: May 13, 2012, 09:55:43 pm »
 cant fault that Neil,something else to go on my shopping list! I will never forget when marking the boot topping on my Cygnus, I left the masking tape on overnight,and coming back next day,after it had rained, I had a monumental job to get the tape off! It came off in so many tiny little bits,that I had to do it all again,making a new line above the previous.
I always peeled the tape off immediately the job was completed after that!
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #599 on: May 13, 2012, 10:04:16 pm »
the tape on that Flying Christine was left on for over a week.....kept forgetting to take it off....but it came of like peeling a satsuma.........it might be expensive  at around £8.50 a roll........but it's better than the frustration caused by other tape I've used in the past.
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