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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #800 on: June 19, 2012, 06:32:47 am »
Quote from: rottweiler on June 18, 2012, 10:21:38 pm
No worries,it was certainly informative for me! I need to know where to get some suitable old fashioned type headlamps now.All I get on my search engine are lights for american police cars etc.I am sure I remember seeing some stainless "conical" shape headlights a few years ago,but cant find anything now.

Sorry Neil, dont mean to hijack your thread.

What size do you need?
Having been into RC cars since the 80's I have a somewhat comprehensive "I'll save those as they might come in handy" car bits box
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #801 on: June 19, 2012, 10:16:33 pm »
Quote from: Neil on June 18, 2012, 11:14:17 pm
no worries............have you tried cutting the ball from an under arm deoderant dispenser in half for your headlamps..............next best thing to Lucas King of the road lamps.
neil.
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thats a brilliant idea,had to use my brains to realise you meant a womans roll on and not an aerosol lol
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #802 on: June 19, 2012, 10:25:03 pm »

What size do you need?
Having been into RC cars since the 80's I have a somewhat comprehensive "I'll save those as they might come in handy" car bits box

Hi Essex,
 you would probably have them as sidelights rather than headlamps. I would be looking at 10mm at most? it would be a pair if you have them please. those would make the headlamps for me.I have installed a 30mm searchlight,but this is by far overscale,so I am looking for a 20mm version of that.I may try Neils idea of the ball from an underarm deoderant,but have to wait for my missus to use one up!

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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #803 on: June 19, 2012, 10:31:00 pm »
speaking of soldering brass on Mk1's Mersey build.............I tried soft soldering two cleats for a mast today( thought it would be easier than silver soldering them)........spent half an hour trying to do it.   >:-o >:-o...........lost the knack after doinf so much with silver solder................... {:-{ {:-{ {:-{.

then started to clean it up................and Piiiinnngggg!!!..........of it flew from my arthritic fingers into oblivion.....  >:-o >:-o >:-o <:( <:( <:( <:(..spent another 30 minutes trying ti find it on the floor in my mess before realising it would be quicker to make another............and silver solder this time.........3 minutes from start to finish....   %% %% %%.......when will I learn........... {-) {-) {-) {-)

more to the point when is this army of modellers decinding on my gaff to clean the place up. <*< <*< {-) {-) {-)
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #804 on: June 19, 2012, 10:37:15 pm »
Name the day big guy - I'm buildin'a real thirst.

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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #805 on: June 19, 2012, 10:51:07 pm »
 {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)you can pop up for a brew anytime you want Dave..........kettle is always on.
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #806 on: June 19, 2012, 11:10:52 pm »
 ok,anyone going to the Blackpool Show,in October,and wants to put their names down to do " NEILS UNIFIED TIDY SHED" (NUTS)
PUT YOUR NAME DOWN HERE!
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #807 on: June 20, 2012, 12:26:35 am »
Quote from: rottweiler on June 19, 2012, 11:10:52 pm
ok,anyone going to the Blackpool Show,in October,and wants to put their names down to do " NEILS UNIFIED TIDY SHED" (NUTS)
PUT YOUR NAME DOWN HERE!

Guys am leaving now, but if I am a little bit late, don't let me hold you up, so please start without me. %) %) %) {-) {-) {-)
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #808 on: June 20, 2012, 10:16:50 am »
Quote from: raaartygunner on June 20, 2012, 12:26:35 am
Guys am leaving now, but if I am a little bit late, don't let me hold you up, so please start without me. %) %) %) {-) {-) {-)

don't forget the Carlton Draught when you come RR..............I don't drink tea or coffee {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #809 on: June 20, 2012, 11:05:52 am »
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spent another 30 minutes trying ti find it on the floor in my mess before realising it would be quicker to make another


Now having made the second, the first will make an obvious appearance....



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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #810 on: June 20, 2012, 10:13:49 pm »
I really think there must be a fourth dimension where everything goes that you loose in theblink of an eye..........cos I have searched and searched on the floor for it without any succerss..........found other bits and bobs that I have lost in the past............but no cleat........sod's law..........

but more pressing things to do...................I began fitting the stanchions to the boats on mondey morning and started with the "Smuts" because my "Guru" Glyn was paying a call to look at the model..........

Sadly after he and his wife had gone, I was fiddling with other parts of the boat, and on three separate occasions caught the stanchions, that were loosly fitted( and nit glued,) and on each occasion they snapped cleanly in two pieces around the ball..................so, as they are probably the most vulnerable part of the lifeboat, I decided to have a test of them.............and tried snapping one or two more

outof the set of 28 for the Smuts.......21 of them snapped very easily...............the mix of white metal had been too brittle for the stanchions.

I had spent a lot of time on them filling the larger holes in the balls with plastic inserts and had fixed them all to the triangular bracket feet which attach to the toe boards............

and so decided on tuesday night to make a couple of rubber moulds with 6 stanchions in each, and set abouit casting them all in a less brittle  mix of white metal and added some lead to give them some resilliance to knocks.

moulds finished in a rush on tuesday night, i fully expected to get  about 3 good ones out of the 6 each cast...............I was absolutely amazed when on each succesive cast I got the full complement of 6 stanchions per casting........and had run my account up to over 100 ( spares, just in case, lol) within an hour of casting this morning......was well pleased................have now just to clean them up, drill through the balls for the chain, and dril and pin the triangular bracket for fixing to the toe boards................eazy peezy.
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #811 on: June 21, 2012, 09:45:21 am »
Wish I had one of those rotary casters...


 I completely failed to cast stanchions out of resin (the moulds didn't turn out that good, and the resin was too runny, and just made a mess everywhere) & had to resort to making them out of plastic tube, having to drill & insert the cross tubes where the chain goes through and then sand them to the right shape - took a long and boring time, especially they kept breaking as well.

I'm not looking forward to that job on the next one.

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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #812 on: June 21, 2012, 09:17:12 pm »
best bit of kit I ever bought lance..............if you belong to a club....have a word about buying one through club funds for the good of everyone in the club........it would pay for itself within a couple of seasons.....mind you I do a lot of hand casting in small moulds as well.
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #813 on: June 24, 2012, 06:52:37 pm »
It's been a long hard slog since last autumn and the three models are nearing completion...............just the stanchions and chains to put on all three boats, and the deck to paint grey on the "Smuts"......she came straight from the builders with the deck painted rather than planked....
I've used a little modellers licence on rigging the aft masts on all three boats, as when I rigged the ALR all those years ago, the mast was not stiff or sturdy enough.........after all we are dealing with modellers materials, and not the real thing............so extra stays were used to keep the mizzen sturdy enough to take the odd knock.

Also the "Smuts" wasn't fitted with cleats on the toe boards as the mast stays were anchored onto the stanchions and chains although I have added them and deck eyes as should the stays have been anchored to the stanchions, the fore cabin would never have been made able to be removeable.......another little bit of modellers licence.............after all............these boats have been made to sail and to be accesible to the inners and the R/C gear..........so, probably the last shots now before completion in a few days..........hope you all like them.
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #814 on: June 24, 2012, 06:58:28 pm »
ps..........has anyone got a clear colour photo of the right colour for the capock filled lifebelts of the early lifeboats that they might post so that I can colour the belts on these three boats.........cheers.
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #815 on: June 24, 2012, 07:43:17 pm »
If it helps anyone searching, I believe the life jackets supplied to the Mary Stanford crew were Kapok Type Pattern No. 3
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #816 on: June 24, 2012, 08:09:35 pm »
now!! where did you find that info from Dave.......amazing.
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #817 on: June 24, 2012, 08:16:51 pm »
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #818 on: June 24, 2012, 08:32:22 pm »
 :embarrassed: just realised you said 'belts' and I've been looking for jackets {-) {-) {-)
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #819 on: June 24, 2012, 09:11:46 pm »
I'm speachless matey...................still...........some good links just the same.
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #820 on: June 25, 2012, 09:02:32 am »
Hi Neil , Watching Dave for some time now I firmly believe that if He can't find it ,it probably does not exist, he is one very helpful Mayhemer & always has good things to say. Your boats are looking better & better every day Neil & I feel launch day is fast approaching,thanks again for all your work & knowledge sharing. Mick B. 
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #821 on: June 25, 2012, 11:09:12 am »
Quote from: irishcarguy on June 25, 2012, 09:02:32 am
I feel launch day is fast approaching,. Mick B. 

It certainly is Mick.
been spraying up all my stanchions this morning with undercoat..........the easy way, lol............not one for doing things one at a time if I can get away with it, %% %% %%

all the  stanchions contain a fixing pin made from brass to fix to the toe boards..........so I utilised this by fixing them to a strip of 20mm square scrap via holes..........then just a matter of spraying on mass.
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #822 on: June 25, 2012, 11:58:57 am »

Good idea      :-))


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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #823 on: June 25, 2012, 12:14:22 pm »
Ken...................my wife says I'm full of 'em............usually when I'm trying to get out of doing the housework, especially ironing {-) {-) {-) {-)
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #824 on: June 25, 2012, 12:36:24 pm »
These help?





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